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Debate Community Debate Stats Results: Frieza vs Palpatine (Dragon Ball vs Star War Disney/Legends)

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u/valtaoi_007 Jul 26 '25

Just because an attack uses ki doesn’t mean the effects can be nullified by someone stronger. Look at ginyu’s body change, Janemba’s reality warping or Buu’s transfigurarion. If a ki attack has an erasure side effect and a character resists it, then he still has some sort of resistance to erasure

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u/SoakedSun24 🐈‍⬛Felix vs Pac-Man Fan🟡 Jul 26 '25

But the opposite can be argued as well. Look at Guldo, his attack wasn’t ki based and people weren’t pushing through it when Vegeta should have been able to. Theres more example that are slipping me as of currently but the main one I use is the Hit argument. Goku pushed through it by heightening his abilities. Does that mean he can just push through time based abilities now? Or what about Jiren shattering it with a glare, which only happened BECAUSE of his higher energy. If you wanna argue Frieza has some resistances then that’s fine, but that doesn’t mean he can just griddy and throw it off him

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u/valtaoi_007 Jul 26 '25

Yeah but Hit’s abilities were directly stated to be able to be surpassed by being stronger. Only him, we can’t assume the same from everyone else

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u/SoakedSun24 🐈‍⬛Felix vs Pac-Man Fan🟡 Jul 26 '25

Do you have a scan? If so.. well fuck. Still though I think the case of stats > hax lmao lol even is still pretty stupid and I don’t believe Frieza has full immunity to soul destruction