r/DeathBattleMatchups Mario vs Kirby fan Aug 04 '25

Question/Discussion Bunch of random takes of varying degrees...

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u/gfjfij Aug 04 '25

Actually I might you on that one because it is the only time where you don't downplay a Mario character lol.

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u/202naFrevliS Mario vs Kirby fan Aug 04 '25

"Downplay" and its not buying that a goomba is 5D lmfao

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u/gfjfij Aug 04 '25

You think Zelda beats Peach dude.

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u/202naFrevliS Mario vs Kirby fan Aug 04 '25

Yes, and I gave reasons for how she could potentially win, what's the issue?

On the flip side you think that any base level mario characters scales to the entire cosmology, made worse when you buy 5D Mario😭

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u/Ezdedeed Aug 04 '25 edited Aug 04 '25

The reasons were, to put it nicely, a complete joke. Your reasons were blatantly being more generous for the scaling of one character than the other (pretty sure that strawman about how you can buy high ends for one character but not the other was about people saying that sort of thing).

Like, the feat you used for Zelda was chainscaling her to an off screen feat (that wasn't even mentioned in any game) done by the goddesses (ignoring the fact that her scaling to them contradicts the entire franchise) because she defeated null, a character who sealed them off screen, in a franchise where weaker characters sealing stronger ones happens all the time. Compared to that, peach scaling to Super Dimentio without the pure hearts might as well be the most blatant thing ever (taking hits from him before the pure hearts even came back, beating Bleck when the pure hearts didn't even affect the characters you're playing has, the fact that the only mention of the hearts "giving them power" was immediately after they got healed with no change in stats)

No one has an issue with buying high ends for one character but not the other, but there is an issue when the feat you accept is significantly more questionable than something you don't. If I said Omni-Man beats Frieza because I buy the sun disk feat and use the old "Frieza destroys planets by destroying their core" excuse I have seen some people use, I would get called biased. Not because I didn't buy high ends for both, but because one was way more questionable than the other.

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u/donteven0809 Aug 04 '25

Cause Zelda has literally no wincon against Peach

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u/gfjfij Aug 04 '25

Yes, and I gave reasons for how she could potentially win, what's the issue?

With most of them being dowmplays of Mario scaling and Peach’s hax.

any base level mario characters scales to the entire cosmology

No, just the BIG one that scale to the hole cosmology, someone like Waluigi doesn't get that scaling ... I think.

5D Mario😭

Bro thinks Mario is just 5D lmao

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u/202naFrevliS Mario vs Kirby fan Aug 04 '25

With most of them being dowmplays of Mario scaling and Peach’s hax.

Not everything you dislike is downplay btw❤️❤️❤️

No, just the BIG one that scale to the hole cosmology, someone like Waluigi doesn't get that scaling ... I think.

Only Super Dimentio and Mario Peach and Bowser with the pure heart specifically if the ruleset gives them scale to it, ain't no way you just said waluigi might scale to it💔

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u/donteven0809 Aug 04 '25

Paperio, Paperser, Paperach easily scale to the cosmology in base (which is easily above 5D)

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u/gfjfij Aug 04 '25

ain't no way you just said waluigi might scale to it

No but Waluigi scales to the Dream Depot stuff from Mario Party.

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u/202naFrevliS Mario vs Kirby fan Aug 04 '25

Which is like Uni at best so like big whoop lmao

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u/Wide-Remove4293 🔥Bowser vs Eggman Fan🥚 Aug 04 '25

Thank God someone else gets it

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u/donteven0809 Aug 04 '25

Even without counting the multiple dreams worlds inside the dream depot, the dream depot is bare minimum infinite 3D/4D

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u/Snooworlddevourer69 Aug 04 '25

Bro thinks Mario is just 5D lmao

5D is like the highest you can genuinely get Mario to, he is not any higher than that lmao

And that's ignoring how without wank he's only just baseline uni

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u/202naFrevliS Mario vs Kirby fan Aug 04 '25

5D Mario😭

Bro thinks Mario is just 5D lmao

Oh my god we're reaching new level of wank unheard of now holy shit.