r/DeathBattleMatchups Mario vs Kirby fan Aug 04 '25

Question/Discussion Bunch of random takes of varying degrees...

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u/SoakedSun24 🐈‍⬛Felix vs Pac-Man Fan🟡 Aug 04 '25

The Mario Cast just has weird scaling. By definition we’d also have to scale a random Goomba and Koopa to Mario because in the rpgs they can take a few hits from Mario. What about King Fredrick from Tropical Freeze? Or the Tiki Masks from Returns? There’s gotta be some line drawn somewhere but I personally am fine with scaling the main cast as high as everyone else does.

Happy cake day btw

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u/Annsorigin đŸŸ„âŹ›Ragna the Bloodedge vs Velvet CroweđŸŸ„âŹ› enjoyer Aug 04 '25

Well Scaling Normal Enemies to Mario is Dumb. Sure in Gameplay They Take Hits From Mario. But in Canon he Defeats Them Effortlessly without even Trying.

K. Rool being DKs Nemesis is Definetly Scaling to him.

But Mario just has the Complicated Case a Lot of Cartoony Franchises have. That everyone is Kinda Even with everyone Else.

I just Think K. Rool scaling to the High tier shit is More then Fair and I see no readon why he Shouldn't.

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u/SoakedSun24 🐈‍⬛Felix vs Pac-Man Fan🟡 Aug 04 '25

I see what you’re saying and I can agree in some sense, especially about the nemesis bit, but it wouldn’t entirely be fair arguing for one while not for the other, especially since if im not mistaken basic enemies have survived a throttling with Mario before. But again you won’t see me try and argue your run of the mill Koopa is outerversal with irrelevant speed lol

The thing with Mario is that its just not as consistent as id like and I 100% get that, but like i would only scale K Rool to Multi if you’re soft comping him because he and Mario haven’t properly interacted. You have to get him that scale by arguing he scales off of DK, who scales to Mario, and if someone needs that literal line of scaling I dunno if they should get it in all honesty. Its why I don’t opt to use chainscaling. If they can preform that feat themselves, sure. If they can scale to someone who can do that that should be somewhat valid too. But when you’re scaling someone to someone else to someone else the line starts blurring, you get me?

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u/Annsorigin đŸŸ„âŹ›Ragna the Bloodedge vs Velvet CroweđŸŸ„âŹ› enjoyer Aug 04 '25

I just don't see why he Shouldn't. Like I said not Doing it would Imply that either Mario is TRILLIONS of Times Stronger then DK. Or that DK is Trillions of Times Stronger then K.Rool. and Neither is Accurate. They are all 3 Portrayed as Being in the same League.

Like I don't Like Chainscaling either. But sometimes In Bigger series Like That it's Unavoidable and in K. Rools Case just really Fucking Blatent.

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u/SoakedSun24 🐈‍⬛Felix vs Pac-Man Fan🟡 Aug 04 '25

I can see the argument, I know it seems viable but then it becomes the Thor = Rhino < Spider-Man argument. Mario is Thor, DK is Rhink and King K Rool is Spider-Man. I just don’t think its viable. Mario is weird to scale as a verse though so again I don’t blame you for doing so, I just blatantly disagree