r/DeathBattleMatchups Mario vs Kirby fan Aug 04 '25

Question/Discussion Bunch of random takes of varying degrees...

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u/Director838u48 šŸ¤–Metal Sonic vs Mechagodzilla FanšŸ¤– Aug 04 '25

But that's how chain scaling works.2 characters are depicted to be equal to each other in some way therefore, they scale to one another and other characters that scale to that character K rool being able to scale the Donkey Kong who's a rival to Mario Would mean he's in the same rama power is mario

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u/SoakedSun24 šŸˆā€ā¬›Felix vs Pac-Man Fan🟔 Aug 04 '25

When the line starts from one character, I think thats fine. The character preformed the feat so they should scale to it right? And when you scale someone to someone else whos preformed that feat, I think thats also valid. But then it starts becoming unreliable when you have to scale one character off of another off of another. It’s the whole Spiderman > Rhino = Thor argument

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u/Director838u48 šŸ¤–Metal Sonic vs Mechagodzilla FanšŸ¤– Aug 04 '25

Except tou can debunk with the rhinos stuff.Pretty easily just by pointing out how inconsistent it is for spiderman or the rhino to scale to thor also the fact that all that scaling is pretty outdated

When it comes to this situation donkey kong is a consistent rival king k rool is a consistent rival to DK it makes a pretty consistent scaling chain between all three as long as the scaling is fine and consistent existent there's no real problem with using

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u/SoakedSun24 šŸˆā€ā¬›Felix vs Pac-Man Fan🟔 Aug 04 '25

Actually, believe it or not Thor has boxed Rhino around 5 - 6 times and he lost. Does this mean Spider-Man = Thor? Hell no. Im just saying its weirdly more consistent than youd think.

And I think thats where the problem comes in. If K Rool shows up in a Mario game proper I will put down the pitchfork and accept that he scales to Mario. But K Rool hasn’t been around for literal years, I don’t think its 100% aight to just scale him that high now because DK beat him up. The chain is weird because it shoots a character who hasn’t been relevant in years by literal infinity because he got wiped off the floor by Mario. I think another example would be using Daisy launching Bowser away with a slap and arguing she now scales above him

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u/Director838u48 šŸ¤–Metal Sonic vs Mechagodzilla FanšŸ¤– Aug 04 '25

consistency isn't the only problem like I said before they are really really debunkable.Let's name one time rhino actually beat thor was when thor's back was turned and stabbed him with a very certain horn. That wouldn't scale him anywhere and in recent years i'm pretty sure most of the time it goes exactly like that or it's is extremely outdated

It's not just because DK beat him up.It's because he is a rival to dk he is quite literally the antithesis to d.K they should be similar in power because of that fact, it's not just because you got beat up by him.Like for example daisy daisy hasn't done anything by herself to justify her scaling the bowser and king K rool recently pulled off some stuff with his new power ups to put him in that conversation of scaling directly to mario

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u/SoakedSun24 šŸˆā€ā¬›Felix vs Pac-Man Fan🟔 Aug 04 '25

Oh well of course, but like theres a few things that have happened where you can somewhat scale Rhino to Thor, whether theyre not super consistent is something else but the argument is still present. I wouldn’t scale King K to Mario off of DK because I wouldn’t scale Spidey to Thor off of Hulk or Rhino.

Maybe im missing something, but what exactly does get K Rool to Marios level off of DK alone? Is it the King of Rot stuff? Didn’t K Rool specifically need to wish for that form as well? Bananza itself is a prequel to all the Mario stuff anyhow which just cements my argument of Mario scaling being dumb. Even then, I can 100% buy Daisy upscaling Bowser before K Rool = DK > Mario because Daisy gives me a reason to actually buy that scale

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u/Director838u48 šŸ¤–Metal Sonic vs Mechagodzilla FanšŸ¤– Aug 04 '25

It's the most of the time.It's like really bad like even in the scan not only is there no indication that silver surfers getting hurt by these punches but he even says he has no wish to fight rhino at all unless you use very outdated stuff.It's impossible to scale rhino to those high tires

DK has fought mario bowser and if more of the Mario cast it's more than reasonable to argue he's on power with them king K rool is a direct rival to donkey kong throughout his entire history i think you can see where the scaling chain comes from granted you could used the prequel argument which is fine but i don't really buy donkey kong getting that much stronger in a span above few years especially since mario adult bowser lost to a much younger yoshi that is relative with now

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u/SoakedSun24 šŸˆā€ā¬›Felix vs Pac-Man Fan🟔 Aug 04 '25

Ima be real with you I only used that scan because I thought it was funny. Again though I just don’t entirely agree, especially because I just cannot see King K Rool properly scaling to Mario. But I do wanna reiterate if you do use this scaling line I think its fine. I just don’t buy it as much as others do