r/DeathBattleMatchups Mario vs Kirby fan Aug 04 '25

Question/Discussion Bunch of random takes of varying degrees...

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u/SoakedSun24 šŸˆā€ā¬›Felix vs Pac-Man Fan🟔 Aug 04 '25

I will have your fucking head

Seriously though my problem is that I really don’t buy the super high Omega Multi+ Mario stuff, I think its fine if you scale the cast that high, but it becomes a bigger issue when we’re trying to say that King K scales to that stuff. Itd be like arguing a Koopa shell has multi+ durability because it can survive getting stomped on by Mario and Luigi. There’s gonna be a line drawn somewhere and I think we past it when people are unironically trying to argue that Mario somehow can carry every single item like grand stars and white tanookis. Im fine giving Mario his basic items but again, a line’s gotta be drawn somewhere you get me? I hope this is comprehensible enough because its my unfiltered thoughts lol

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u/RegularUnluckyGuy Deadpool vs Postal Dude enthusiast Aug 04 '25

Dude, DK is straight up scaling Mario, it's been proven multiple times. K. Rool scaling is just like this, especially with his latest game, which follows a cosmology that doesn't stray from what's been shown in other Mario titles.

I can see that you don't see the characters as being at a particularly high level, I can see that. But making an exception for K. Rool is definitely not a possibility.

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u/SoakedSun24 šŸˆā€ā¬›Felix vs Pac-Man Fan🟔 Aug 04 '25

I don’t have a problem with DK scaling to Mario at all. If you wanna scale him that way then thats fine there’s evidence to back that up.

What I do have a problem with is being like ā€œK Rool scales to high outer because he inhaled one of Donkey Kongs anal hairs and that same hair has a speck of dust on it from Mario’s bootā€ which is basically what chainscaling is doing. I understand there’s exceptions to be made but me personally I would not scale K Rool to Mario off of DK because then you gotta do the same for a bunch of other characters which ruins the chain. I guess Fawful is also a multiverse buster too

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u/D1rtyDough Aug 04 '25

Agreed. I think chain scaling in Mario is pretty god damn dangerous because Mario's strength is incredibly variable throughout the series. There's no continuity between most games.

In some games, Mario dies if a turtle touches him. In others, Mario can tank being in a blackhole. This does not mean a Koopa is solar system level. This means the Mario in Mario Galaxy is just a lot stronger than the Mario in SMW3.

Those Marios, for the sake of powerscaling, are different fucking guys.

How can we scale K Rool to Mario, if we don't know how strong the Mario in the DK Country continuity was when he fought Donkey Kong. We never even met that guy.

Well... sorta? Banaza might be in the same continuity as Odyssey, but that's a topic of theory, and that's too many steps into speculation for me. And Odyssey Mario isn't outerversal or some shit, so my point still stands.