r/DeathBattleMatchups Sorry, was that important? 27d ago

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u/Daikaisa Hashirama senju VS Gold D Rodger Fan 27d ago

The fact that Metal can't use every power possible doesn't make the animation less interesting lots of characters are super great for a battle while still having too large an arsenal to really show it all.

Like adding more doesn't make the episode worse it just means that Metal doesn't just completely out hax and out stat by such a degree that everyone sees the result from a mile away.

Notably by the way all your points are about Metal. You don't address that with just their canon versions Cell is completely cheated out of having an actual chance in let's be real probably the only episode that he would get by being fed to a different character. Canon vs Canon does a bigger disservice to Cell than Composite vs Composite does for Metal

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u/Director838u48 🤖Metal Sonic vs Mechagodzilla Fan🤖 27d ago

If It's only going to use the components from metal from his original source material then what would be the point of compositing him anyway besides again making the fight debatably closer? Again neither of them get really anything from being composited in this fight besides cell growing bigger neither of them really gain anything from this.Besides making the fight debatably better which I'll get to an a bit

let's talk about the debate because compositing them doesn't make it close sell doesn't get much from heroes he got beat up by vegeta In base his best feat with the dark dragon ball is beating up ss kid Gohan and then when we talk about his other forms he was able to fight with and I guess somewhat keep up with a fusion between trunks and vegeta along with this other guy so you can argue be scales to those high ends and metals even more muddy since his only real meta to match up to cell x is assuming archie superforms don't get any stronger so he could scale to the higher end stuff and again It assumes that the events of heroes went the exact same in archie as it did in the games

Adding more stuff makes the scaling it's more confusing and unless you really assume some stuff for metal is the fight not even fair to begin with it would be the exact same just for the other side of the debate

Because cell at least gets to use his full Arsenal and has good dialogue potential i could be argued stronger than most of metals transformations comparing that comp what takes away connections, takes away from the animation and arguably doesn't do anything to fix the debate problem but just flip it it's clearly bad

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u/itownshend17 🦔 Sonic vs Goku Enthusiast 🐉 27d ago

let's talk about the debate because compositing them doesn't make it close sell doesn't get much from heroes

He absolutely does, literally any degree of scaling to Heroes characters and getting access to the hax of it already buffs him tremendously.

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u/Director838u48 🤖Metal Sonic vs Mechagodzilla Fan🤖 27d ago

Yeah That's true however metal's lack of getting anything from archie makes compositing them a stomp just for the other side

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u/itownshend17 🦔 Sonic vs Goku Enthusiast 🐉 27d ago

Thats more reasonable, but Archie Metal does get scaling to characters from Archie making his stats equal to those of Xeno Cell, and haxwise he turned into Overlord even in Archie, which he can only do after copying the abilities of a bunch of characters, including Sonic and Shadows, so he does have access to Archies chaos force powers too.

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u/Director838u48 🤖Metal Sonic vs Mechagodzilla Fan🤖 27d ago

My issue with archie metal scaling that it's based off of a lot of assumptions

We not only have no idea if Archie gave the same statement metal being nearly invulnerable to the super team's attacks but it also assumes that the superforms didn't just get stronger over the years considering if all the good stuff that he would get from archie happened years after heroes

And yes, you would have their abilities.We don't know how he used them though which is why it leads to a lot of assumptions