r/DeathBattleMatchups • u/Prior_East_9182 • 17d ago
Debate Who can springtrap actually beat ?
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u/actuallycorrection Sans vs The Judge Supporter 17d ago
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u/ScarcityPhysical8441 17d ago edited 17d ago
Out of everyone in the image he beats Chucky, The man in the suit, Myers, maybe Junko and Midori
He loses to everyone else i think
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u/Prior_East_9182 17d ago
Jason and bendy are highly debatable, afton has crazy soul hax
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u/ScarcityPhysical8441 17d ago
I thought about saying he beats Jason but idk if he can get past the healing factor
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u/RegularUnluckyGuy Deadpool vs Postal Dude enthusiast 17d ago
He only wins against Jason if Agony is taken into account. Otherwise, Jason has quite the advantage.
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u/Chemical_Music_3906 🐉Kobayashi vs Makima Fan⛓️ 17d ago
Bendy lacking a soul makes it useless lmao
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u/SnapDragonBoi 17d ago
I think opposite. Without a soul, Bendy is more vulnerable to soul haz because he can inject his spirit into him (which is what he does to Larson).
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u/blueboibillyreal 17d ago
The man in the suit is NOT losing to Springtrap
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u/ScarcityPhysical8441 17d ago
Yeah no, he is
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u/blueboibillyreal 17d ago
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u/blueboibillyreal 17d ago
Let’s remember that Springtrap is still a human, he’s got the mindset of a human, sure he’s seen scary robots, but how’s he gonna react when he sees a giant grotesque Godzilla bleeding from every hole vomiting acidic blood
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u/The_Holy_Tree_Man 17d ago
The concept of an immortal child murderer being scared of a gross Godzilla suit
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u/Brycethebot 17d ago
I don't think the Man in the Suit could survive pure agony overwhelming his regeneration in combination with a massive amalgamation of haunted Fazbear relics, animatronics, and toys mutilating him as his soul is absorbed and manipulated by Afton.
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u/JunoTheHoot 17d ago
Afton neg diffs lol
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u/blueboibillyreal 17d ago
What’s he gonna do when his skull gets melted by acidic blood
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u/Usual_Database307 Flowey vs The Princess Fan 17d ago
Be unaffected. The stat gap is large building to street; the acid is not melting through him.
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u/blueboibillyreal 17d ago
The man in the suit can go as fast as a car
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u/EyeSoapYes OMORI vs The Batter Fan 17d ago
so does springtrap lmao
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u/blueboibillyreal 17d ago
No he doesn’t😭
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u/EyeSoapYes OMORI vs The Batter Fan 17d ago
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u/blueboibillyreal 17d ago
Still, tmits’s body is just pure muscle, what’s a raggedy old zombie gonna do, sure Springtrap has survived 3 fires, tmits survived a human explosion,
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u/Usual_Database307 Flowey vs The Princess Fan 17d ago
Springtrap:
- However, this is more of a travel speed, given it’s only shown in large, open areas. - Can rush the player when Express Delivery is ordered (119 m/s).
- Able to move at “preternatural speed.”
- While still human, was able to pilot cars at speeds of up to 200 MPH, while under the influence.
- Is described as possessing “the speed of a race car” (around 90 m/s).
- Supposedly has a running speed of 170 MPH (76 m/s).
- Plushtrap can fly from his chair at high speeds (39 m/s). - Foxy can move as quick as a blur. - Withered Bonnie can charge the player within a blink. - The Nightmare Animatronics can come to a complete standstill before being illuminated by a flashlight.
- Perception-blitzed Michael Afton and Officer Dunn, the latter of which had his finger on the trigger of a gun.
- Comparable to other Fazbear Ent. animatronics.
- The furthest of these blinks goes from one point in a vent shaft to another (196 m/s).
- Traverses the Fazbear Frights facility with ease via “blinks” from camera to camera, almost as if he was teleporting.
- Various MODs can boost speed from 17% to 666%, depending on application.
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u/donteven0809 17d ago
Driving a car at 200 mph is not only a very unimpressive feat but also scales nowhere
2nd and 3rd never happened
Never perception blitzed Michael and he took Dunn off guard
The rest are all gameplay mechanics
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u/AdTemporary1487 Kakashi vs Gojo fan 17d ago
William should beat Chucky in most cases. He should also beat Sou since I don’t think the latter scales that high.
Junko and Bendy are debatable if William is given his high ends/novel stuff.
Personally, ive got William winning against Bendy due to soul hax, and losing to Junko due to her being stronger and faster, and being able to exorcize William’s soul
Everyone else he loses to I’m pretty sure
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u/DeatroyerOfCheese 17d ago
I'm still on Junko's side myself but what is your argument for using a feat from Danganronpa V3? Since Junko isn't the mastermind of that one?
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u/StatisticianEmpty564 17d ago
The monokuma models were an exact copy of Junko as Tsumugi was trying to copy everything about Junko as a crazed fan . Also we know the monokuma robot AI are just Junko personality , v3 doesn't seem to deviant from that.
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u/DeatroyerOfCheese 17d ago
Beats Chucky, Michael, Probably Jason, Man in the suit, and Midori.
I know that Junko is debatable to most people but honestly...I just can't vibe with the idea that someone who ultimately dies in a building fire and previously was damaged by one so much they needed outside help to recover, would be able to survive explosions (way hotter than building fires) from bears that outnumber him and are significantly faster than his reaction speed.
People act like he's just going to go around absorbing monokuma units but when it comes to his metal absorption it clearly relies on his reaction speed, since he got hit by a forklift first in the very scene he uses it.
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u/donteven0809 17d ago
Neither Michael or Jason
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u/CelebrationIcy660 15d ago
Springtrap would beat michael as michael doesn't have the means or strength to put afton down
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u/donteven0809 15d ago
He literally does and afton can’t do the same to Mickey
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u/CelebrationIcy660 15d ago
What're you talking about he doesn't have fire nor is michael strong enough to get enough damage off before afton kills him
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u/donteven0809 15d ago
He literally has the intelligence and tools to start one and can easily kill afton hell afton has no way to kill Michael
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u/CelebrationIcy660 15d ago
How would he even know that though springtraps win con is just easier Michael literally dies by bleeding out in Halloween ends, and springtrap is doing way better than an old Laurie Strode
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u/donteven0809 14d ago
By that logic afton died to fire which myers survived and afton lost to a corpse and ghosts kids also Myers wasn’t even dead by bleeding they had to shreds every piece of him to make sure he wouldn’t return
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u/CelebrationIcy660 14d ago
Afton survived a fire and only died the second time because he was locked in a furnace myers died but they doubled down and put him in a shredder just in case context is important
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u/donteven0809 14d ago
He survived cause the fire wasn’t as hot as the second one (which was barely 200ºC) and the fact they had to make sure myers stays dead prove bleeding is not all it takes to kill him (not to mention you’re only counting the canon timeline using other timelines Myers gets way more busted methods of immortality)
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u/KnoxsNotHome 17d ago
negs junko, michael, chucky, sou and goji
im pretty sure bendy, jason and DIO should-you-comp-afton are debatables
vader and zamasu yeah he's shit outta luck
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u/AdTemporary1487 Kakashi vs Gojo fan 17d ago
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u/KnoxsNotHome 16d ago
hhhh
-more strong -ties in smartness -has many ways around the monoarmy and NWP -can commit starscream if his current body is incapacitated -i am a firm denier of the "junko soul hax" bullshit like ts wasn't even her doing it
is gud?
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u/AdTemporary1487 Kakashi vs Gojo fan 16d ago
It wasn’t Junko destroying the soul, but the thing that did is in her arsenal and she should be able to use it easily lmao
How would William counter the tons of thousands of monobots swarming him and exploding all at once?
And even if he is stronger, Junko can just use the flashback light or despair video to brainwash him and get the ez kill
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u/KnoxsNotHome 16d ago
the issue is that kuma wasn't junko-controlled, it was tsumugi controlled and im pretty sure V3 is an alternate continuity
again, springies soul is capable of operating without a body, which ik your gonna say it again BUT how does junko having to ravage through her own army to find the aftonized one sound
also phantoms is the one way i can say he gets out of the flashback light i aint got shit for that
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u/AdTemporary1487 Kakashi vs Gojo fan 16d ago
Okay, they were controlled by Tsumugi, but it’s never stated that she made any alterations to the units. I see no reason as to why they wouldn’t be the same as the ones Junko has.
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u/SnapDragonBoi 16d ago
I don’t think those would really work on Springtrap tbh. Those parts of her arsenal were kinda debunked in the db cast for them as well as for Monokuma and Korosensei.
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u/AdTemporary1487 Kakashi vs Gojo fan 16d ago
Wait why not?
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u/SnapDragonBoi 16d ago
Normally, when Junko uses Monokuma, she only uses one at a time. When that’s destroyed, a new one pops out and takes its place. Similarly in the case of Korosensei, Afton would need to only take out/hack a couple of them before he finds Junko.
At Max (no pun intended), she can control a maximum of 100 Monokumas at one’s, according to Danganronpa IF. The rest are just the average autonomous Monokuma units from ultra despair girls, which Afton could easily hack or absorb into an amalgamation. It’s not like Afton’s gonna be jumped by 1000 Monokuma units at once. It’s sequential.
Also, about the flashback light, the students that were hit with the flashback light already had amnesia and were missing memories when they were hit with it. The light made them gain new memories in place of the ones that were gone. In the case of Afton (Or Korosensei, which this example was also used for), when you hit someone that already has memories with the light, it flashes memories that will be contradictory to the ones that are already there.
Not to mention, even if it could erase Afton’s memories, some of them will still be there because remnant and agony are liquified memories to the point where it’s not mental anymore, it’s spiritual.
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u/Warriorlegend 17d ago
From the pic opponents, Chucky and Michael, you could make a case for Jason but pretty squarely loses to everyone else
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u/No-Chocolate-1730 17d ago
Jason and Michael Myers The man in the suit and Chuckie, everyone he loses two
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u/donteven0809 17d ago
Jason and Myers stomp afton ass
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u/Due_Transition_8335 Sans vs The Judge Supporter 17d ago
Jason and only Jason stomps his ass
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u/No-Chocolate-1730 17d ago
Not really
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u/Due_Transition_8335 Sans vs The Judge Supporter 17d ago
Ok well obviously more people then Jason stomp William. I’m refuting Myer beating William specifically
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u/Due_Transition_8335 Sans vs The Judge Supporter 17d ago
He beats Chucky, Myers, Midori, The Man in the suit, and debatable Bendy I think William wins
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u/Powerscalingfreak 17d ago
He beats Michael, Chucky, Jason, Bendy and arguably junko. Remnant regeneration really fucked over some of these guys.
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u/Lopsided_Spray_1775 17d ago
if comp springtrap he only lose to zamasu and novel darth vader and maybe to comp dio, but this debatable
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u/donteven0809 17d ago
Comp Jason, myers and chucks are also crippling his ass (comp Dio one shots)
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u/Lopsided_Spray_1775 16d ago
Nah, springtrap wins against comp Jason, Myers and Chucky cuz he scales to Fis freddy who beat Scott (Scott stronger than Josh who create 8 worlds in doomsday picnic (2-c lvl)), Myers scales to uni lvl (lose to 1 update springtrap), Jason scales to city-island lvl (lose to base fw springtrap cuz he scales to Flans who can survived attacks that annihilated city), Chucky scales to mountain lvl with prep time (lose to base fw springtrap in fight without prep time he lose to human Afton)
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u/donteven0809 16d ago
Hahahahahaha comp fnaf world caps at uni+ and that’s even assuming animdude created shit and not buying the 2D argument, without Scott fnaf world caps at wall
Dbd chucky one shots via better scaling to the entity (multi universal >>> uni+) meanwhile dbd afton doesn’t scale to the entity
Same for dbd myers and fortnite Myers (multi universal to multi+ >>> uni+)
Novel Jason, comic Jason, mk Jason, Fortnite Jason and multiversus Jason also all one shot comp afton (multi+ to higher >>>>> uni+)
And all of them outhax and speedblitz so hard it’s not even funny
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u/Automatic-Library911 17d ago edited 17d ago
He defeats the man in the suit and Midori. Dio, Jason, Myers, Junko and Bendy defeat him and with Chucky I have it debatable Although I could probably get downvoted for believing the latter.
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u/Ok-Delay4543 17d ago
I'm just going to say that with Chucky it's more difficult than its believe here.
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u/Everchosen13 🤖Metal Sonic vs Mechagodzilla Fan🤖 17d ago
He pretty handidly beats the man in the suit, Myer's and Chucky, debatably beats Junko and Bendy (I think he wins against Junko ever so slighty more and going 50/50 with Bendy) and loses to everyone else. Don't know about Midori
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u/Hot-Coat7542 17d ago
He definitely losing to Junko, Dio and Zamasu. Honestly don’t know about anyone else.
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u/strange-Syrup-0 Sorry, was that important? 17d ago
He wins against Chucky and Bendy
He loses to Junko and Dio
Everything else I’m not sure on
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u/Ok_University_6641 Springtrap vs Chucky fan 17d ago
Beats MAS, and Myers easlily. Beats Chucky and Chris Walker. Debatablely wins against Junko. Loses to the rest.
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u/ShortWin7636 I always come back! 17d ago
Falando só dos personagens que eu gosto e me importo, ele ganha.
Chucky, Michael Myres and Homem de Terno
Junko é discutível pra mim. Pessoalmente, eu acho que o William ganha dela. Bendy, aparentemente baseado nos comentários aqui, também parece discutível. Eu sempre achei que isso podia dar empate, já que a maioria dos poderes do William não funcionariam no Bendy. Eu também acho que o Bendy não conseguiria matar o William numa Death Battle. Mas se a pergunta é só derrotar, eu acho que o Bendy ganha.
Vader e Dio. Eu ainda não entendo como as pessoas acham que ele tem chance contra esses dois. Falando como um cara que gosta dessas três franquias, eu acho impressionante o quanto as pessoas conseguem subestimar e superestimar o William.
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u/Snooworlddevourer69 17d ago
Beats Michael, Jason, Chucky and man in the suit
loses to everyone else
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u/donteven0809 17d ago
He beats only Chucky and MITS
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u/Snooworlddevourer69 17d ago
How does he lose to either Michael or Jason?
Afton blitzes both of them and outhaxes them pretty hard
Unless you buy city level Jason (I dont) Afton also has the AP advantage as well, being large building vs Michael being small building and Jason being building level
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u/donteven0809 17d ago
Neither speedblitz (subsonic vs supersonic to hypersonic) or outhaxes either (afton has no good hax and all the good ones he has are either limited or resisted and countered by both) and both myers and Jason one shot and tear afton apart
Afton caps at street bruh 💀 if you buy bs arguments for afton then you have to but higher arguments for Jason and Michael since they are better hell Jason is city block to town without Uber as matter of fact so even with wanking afton Jason obliterates
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u/Snooworlddevourer69 17d ago
Afton venting gets mach 2
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1E9dvbKTBu2p1YZhkIN3kr9Md7vwLkkzHqcP6b0gXH6c/edit?usp=sharing
Neither Michael nor Jason are hypersonic, idk where you're getting it from, both are barely subsonic
Afton can just corrupt and take over their souls with a touch, neither can resist it
Afton is large building tho
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZiO23gDvtY-qiIcHql550oNJ3HZT9JMnzodD9M-7jvs/edit?usp=sharing
It gets higher than both the church explosion Michael survived and Jason surviving a house explosion in part 7, idk where you get non Uber town level Jason from
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u/donteven0809 17d ago
Gameplay mechanics by that logic we have to count the actual time it takes afton to reach the office (6 hours divided in 450 seconds is 48 seconds and that’s assuming it takes him 1 sec when in reality it takes bare minimum 20 so that’s already 16 minutes to reach a single office) afton is the one who barely subsonic, Jason and myers have actual feats of dodging gunfire, lighting and more
Afton never corrupted souls and to he has to touch them for his “death” hax to work and as established he has no way in hell of touching them and even if he did they will both come back especially Jason (and don’t say it will take them time cause afton needs decades to come back after dying)
Ah yes the twisted who get pierced by bullets and almost died to a fire and who all scale above afton especially when novel afton almost died to a bullet, a spike and a collapsing cave and got killed in a furnace
Yeah by it’s easy to wank street level feats using non sensical calcs by that logic myers church explosion was a large country level feat and Jason explosion was a multi continental feat
Say hello to Freddy vs Jason scaling (alongside comics and novel scaling)
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u/SnapDragonBoi 17d ago
From what I know, he easily beats Chucky, Jason, and Michael.
With medium to high difficulty, he beats Junko and Bendy.
That’s it. I think he loses to the rest.
Main reason I say he beats Junko is because most of Junko’s tech is technology-based, and hacking tech is what Afton does.
As for Bendy, since he doesn’t have a soul, it leaves him more vulnerable to the remnant Hax, leaving him open for possession, regardless of resistance, due to an actual spirit being in there.
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u/Ok-Landscape-4835 17d ago
Chucky, Myers, that's all I've got.
I think the others just crush William, the fact Junko is even a liked opponent for him baffles me
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u/fury1012000 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair 17d ago
Unironically he beats most there except Jason, Zamasu and maybe Dio though surprisingly that's really debatable(it's a battle of if Dio can put Springtrap down before daylight)
People are gonna say what about Bendy but Bendy is a big fish in a small pond, his best feats are street level to maybe small building, Springtrap scales to characters who are large building level, nothing in Bendy is anywhere near impressive, Bendy resetting the cycle isn't something he can do on command, he does not naturally hold that power, stop saying he's universal or even planetary, he's not impressive in the slightest across 90% of his match ups, Bendy is weak compared to most his match up opponents and I'm tired of pretending he's strong
Also if you think the universe level or even planetary arguments was a joke, it isn't, genuinely I've seen arguments for both and both were painful to read
Also the unkillable and immortality arguments are also weak because the lore says "no one in the cycle is strong enough to kill him" not that he's Unkillable, add someone strong enough to kill him to the mix and he ain't shit, it'll be a Mahito and Yuji situation, he's no longer the wolf and he'll be running like a bitch first sign of danger
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u/Affectionate-Rush323 My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair 17d ago edited 17d ago
He would beat charles and junko and Michael
And bendy is debatable.
Edit:downvoted cause of junko losing opinion.
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u/Wise-Inside1805 17d ago
From this image?
He beats chucky, idk where the dude with green hair scales, springtrap loses to everyone else
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u/DayGroundbreaking829 Garfield vs Snoopy fan 17d ago
His sons, he beats his sons