Johnny. Learnt spin and mastered it in a relatively short amount of time, and uses his stand creatively and competently against similarly strong opponents. Denji has shown to be pretty good at improv, but honestly his raw power and regen is what buys him time to plan in the first place and IMO he ain't the sharpest tool in the shed. With spin in play, we cannot guarantee Denji can heal in time
Pochita changes NOTHING lmao. Speed is the one category that matters, since Denji already AP stomps without Pochita (I see Johnny as a glass cannon), and nothing Pochita has would protect him from Act 4 if it were to hit.
Why are you saying ap and calling johnny a glass canon like its not for durability too? Dude did u even read the manga? In chapter 25 its shown that spin users can use spin like ki to protect themselves but you obvs dont know what u talking about
Base? Denji no question, especially since Johnny's paraplegic for most of SBR and like when he gets to walk he just leaves to America and kickstarts Part 8
Full power? Not sure how far Hero of Hell Denji scales, and Act 4 while powerful in-verse I'm not sure how strong it is in actuality
Johnny. Professionally learnt spin, if only awhile. Denji doesn't really have specialised combat training IIRC, and mostly wins fights through the shear power of the Chainsaw Devil
Gonna give it to Johnny, first he had to unlock all his acts through experimenting and listening to Jesus. Then when he masters his stand he is able to perform much more complex movements and even learns how to perform the golden ration in different ways
Denji. Since very childhood he was hunting Devils and after becoming a hybrid recieved a traning by a best devil hunter in Japan. In very short period of time he is able to become exponentially better fighter, as for example he was destroyed by Katana Man in first encounter but then few days later was able to match him and defeat him using wits. He constantly fights opponents smarter and more experienced than him like Rezi and Santa. He is also incredibly creative and versatile using his powers.
Johnny. His Battle IQ is no joke, figuring out the abilities and intentions of mulitple antagonists. Denji is illiterate, never had a formal education till the Academy Saga and even then it's interrupted by shit, and his only "learning" is allegedly watching educational shows
Probably draw. Johhny is incredibly smart but so is Denji. He was able to make a plan to take down Makima herself and succed which not even someone like Kishibe with much more recources and prep time was able to do. He was also able to figure out weakness of Santa to the fire and Reze to the water on his owm. He along side with Yoshida was able to complete a plan to trap Aging Devil in his own domain. Denji's intelligence is no joke.
Johnny. Acts 1-4 gives a lot of versatility and options. Denji has raw power and conceptual erasure, but the latter only is possible if the devil repping that concept is consumed
Technically Johnny. Denji has his chainsaw, regen, a transformation, and could bite you out of existence. Johnny has Act 1, Act 2 which allows his bullets to move towards the target, Act 3 which gives him his ability to move around and find better vantage points, Act 4 which gives a bit more offense, and the golden ratio which brings endless pursuit, and the ability to spin people to death.
Johnny. Spin abilities, 4 different stands(ok ACTS but different abilities), not being paraplegic by the end of the part. Denji's conceptual erasure in dangerous and would've taken the category if not for the fact it needs the devil repping the concept. You probably won't find the Paraplegic Devil or Horserider Devil in the battlefield eh?
Denji on account his limbs and head are literally weapons. Idk why everyone's saying Johnny, he has a gun he uses occassionally and his fingernails don't really count, that's more Hax.
Denji technically, but it is somewhat close considering Act 4 broke a light barrier that redirects attacks and chased someone through multiple universes
Johnny. If this is similar to skill, Denji mostly gets by due to sheer power and regen, with lots of blood to fuel him. Johnny on the other hand, he's fought legit competent stand users throughout the SBR and his stand while powerful isn't the most powerful. His Battle IQ and versatility carries
Denji. He can jump across building and jab with the Devils of Kaiju size across whole city block. Johhny is relying mostly on the horse which obviously isn't as agile.
MrRKeegan said that abilities in this debate refer to non-superhuman abilities like running and jumping, and aiming weapons. And I think that Denji is more impressive in that category than Johnny.
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Strength = Physical output (e.g. How strong are they, how much can they lift, etc).
Powers = more conventional advantages like flying, ice breath, super speed.
Hax = weirder abilities like Gojo’s infinite, temporal lock, death immunity.
Attack Potency = the amount of destructive capacity they can produce.
Combat = knowledgable with martial arts/H2H (e.g. Boxing, Judo, etc).
Abilities = non-superhuman things like aiming, jumping, etc.
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u/MrRKeegan My matchup isn't popular enough for its own flair 13d ago
Who takes Speed?