What happens when your verse gets capped at 12D vs what happens when your verse gets scaled to multiple layers above infinite dimensional. Literally, Banner won purely cause Ultima (based on where DB scaled both) could never reach the level of the cosmology where Hulk respawns and so he couldnt destroy the green door and stop Hulks revives, meanwhile 12D Kyle is barely above 11D Simon in terms of power, and so Simons power growth would make him surpass Kyle quickly.
I still think it’s super odd Dc was capped at 12 D when it has better arguments for higher, hell even the black boxes said give to higher interpretations dc was bigger than gurren Lagan , it’s also confusing cause before they said dc and marvel cosmology was equal and ghosts rider vs spawn and Godzilla vs hulk had basically a thousand dimensions
In my opinion, Death Battle genuinely downplayed DC's cosmology to make Kyle vs Simon look close. Similar to how Doomslayer wasnt given lore scaling so Chief vs Slayer seemed close (even though Kratos and the Dragonborn did receieve lore scaling in their episodes showing Death Battle isnt against using it), DB chose to not use any infinite dimensional argument for DC cause then it would be high hyper Kyle vs high complex Simon and it'd be a stomp for Kyle. But if they capped DC at 12D and GL at 11D then it seems close, problem is this scale for DC doesnt make sense since DB has stated they buy infinite dimensional Marvel cosmology in multiple episodes before, and even bought layers into infinite dimensional Marvel cosmology in Hulkzilla, which then makes you wonder how Marvel vs DC are nearly tied in wins and losses in Death Battle if the DB team consider their cosmologies to be THIS far apart in terms of where they scale.
It’s honestly similar to the problems that I have with ghost rider vs spawn results, why did they not bring up ghost rider resistance to reality warping and transmutation and said he had none, these are like the main wincons other than strength that ghost rider had, did they think spawns was simply better and more potent
They also said Ghost Rider can affect infinite bulk spaces, those being infinite higher dimensions, while also stating Zarathos can threaten infinite higher dimensions and transcendent realms.
They said Ghost Rider can affect infinite bulk spaces, those being infinite higher dimensions, with Zarathos threatening infinite higher dimensions and transcendent realms.
Fair, though i don't think the infinite part wasn't supposed to correlate to the higher dimensions or transcendent realms.
Edit 1:Otherwise Hulk would have been infinite layer's into Outer. Also with the way wording there would be an infinite amount of already infinite timelines and an infinite amount of bulk spaces connecting them? Might be a typo.
They literally said that DC's cosmology is larger except Kyle has limits and no way around Simon's evolutionary potential and regeneration and that he has no limits.
They also didn't cap Simon and Kyle as 11D and 12.3D, respectively. That's for their base forms. They're higher forms like Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann and White Lantern are far greater as they're both on Outerversal Levels of power. Except Kyle hit his limit with the Life Equation, whereas Simon kept growing stronger thanks to the Otoko scaling and it's been confirmed that those with strong willpower can resist the Life Equation's effects.
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u/itownshend17 🦔 Sonic vs Goku Enthusiast 🐉 7d ago edited 7d ago
What happens when your verse gets capped at 12D vs what happens when your verse gets scaled to multiple layers above infinite dimensional. Literally, Banner won purely cause Ultima (based on where DB scaled both) could never reach the level of the cosmology where Hulk respawns and so he couldnt destroy the green door and stop Hulks revives, meanwhile 12D Kyle is barely above 11D Simon in terms of power, and so Simons power growth would make him surpass Kyle quickly.