r/DestinyTheGame • u/multiplemuffins • 1d ago
Discussion I miss playing but I have ZERO interest in playing this version of Destiny 2
I played for about 2 weeks into EOF trying to grind via the portal system and I just couldn't do it. I no longer felt like I was playing the Destiny 2 I know and love. I'm not against change as the Destiny 2 I have nearly 4000 hours in has changed a lot over the years but the portal feels like the Destiny 2 I put all those hours into, was taken out back to be put down in favor of a terribly unfinished, underbaked, frankensteined version of a "new" update. I've been playing since Destiny 1 on the Xbox 360 through all the ups and downs but this was the first time I felt bungie genuinely didn't care about my time one bit. Swapping out the weekly pinnacle missions, raids rotators, dungeons rotators, GMs, vender reward tracks, and the pathfinder that allowed me to play either Strikes, Crucible, or even Gambit and still get some rewards, for the portal genuinely makes my head hurt to think about. I feel they had this amazing game with an alive world that always kept me coming back for more to keep building onto, but instead they literally buried the game I've been playing these last 8 years, in favor of a game that will drip feed us content through a vastly inferior system. To be clear its not the modifiers I have a problem with or even the idea of a portal in general but way they rolled this out. We went from the systems previously mentioned to running what is essentially a lost sector and Star crossed for 2 months.
I was looking at ash and Iron as a potential jumping back in point but no SIVA, no Splicers, and we get Cabal and Vex instead? What are we doing here? Like Genuinely? This is not acceptable. Imagine they remastered the moon for Shadow Keep but there was no Hellmouth or Hive temples. What would be the point and what is the point of the Plague Lands coming back if you're going to do it this dirty? It feels like a cheap way to manipulate people into hopping on the game in an attempt to get them to buy skins in what will inevitably be a fully SIVAd out Eververse store after you throw 5 pop ups on login advertising all the cool new Eververse gear that will be available to buy while not putting any of the SIVA flair into the actual fan favorite destination. We know they can make old destinations feel new while still feeing faithful to the original because the just did it to the Dreadnaught last Episode. Too bad they deleted that I guess. The other thing I'm supposed to be excited about is **checks notes** Dungeon encounters? We cant even have FULL dungeons that have been out for years in this new system? What is the point of the system if it cant feature the best content Destiny has to offer In FULL? Make it make sense.
I am 100% sincere when I say I want the game to succeed but I genuinely do not know if they have the man power to fix Destiny 2 at this moment in time due to the layoffs, being spread thin from working on other projects, and all the dev time that's most likely going into finishing/Polishing Renegades. They have a seemingly impossible task Infront of them. I know Bungie always manages to find their way out of the messes they make but dang, they sure have to show the world they still have that magic in them to not only make something special but also repair the damage that has already been done.
EDIT: To anyone in a similar position as I am, I definitely recommend checking out Destiny 1 if you have a console that can play it. Super fun if you can get over the 30fps and no fov slider and still has a healthy population on Xbox one. Also most importantly the progression is fun :)
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u/MrMarcusRocks 1d ago
I feel the same.
I genuinely want to like Destiny. I really miss playing Destiny.
But I log on, look at the portal, sigh, and log off.
I just do a weekly raid with my mates right now.
I really hope Bungie fix this, coz I want to love Destiny again.
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u/mprakathak RIP wolfpack rounds 1d ago
''I just do a weekly raid with my mates right now.''
Cmonbruh, no need to flex on us like that, i cant even get my 2 buddies to even just log on.
On the other hand, i have discovered that helping lower level guardian doing their final shape campaign is my new calling and i have alot more fun doing this than any portal content even if i get nothing in return besides a thank you from a desperate guardian lmao.
They always surprised and ask me how to get my gun. (Microcosm)
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u/SirBLACKVOX 1d ago
''I just do a weekly raid with my mates right now.'' Cmonbruh, no need to flex on us like that, i cant even get my 2 buddies to even just log on
Now who's flexing....I cant even get friends.
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u/360GameTV 1d ago
Yep could be me. I want to play Destiny but nearly every time I ask myself, which content? For what loot? :( The fun is somehow gone...
(Before EOF, the most time I was in GM and help people but Bungie decide to delete GM nightfalls...for whatever reason...)
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u/MySilverBurrito 1d ago
I really miss playing Destiny.
Shit man, I just wanna do DSC, vibe out in VoG, and finally learn Vow. Mindlessly grind Dreaming City for the aesthetic. But the thought of coming back to regrind gear after leaving post-TFS is depressing.
If I can go back to the Season of the Lost w Particle Deconstruction, I'd do it in a hearbeat.
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u/never3nder_87 1d ago
I will say, if you want to learn Vow, you can overcome 90% of the challenge without opening Destiny, and just practice learning the symbols/names
https://www.sporcle.com/games/invickthus/vow-of-the-disciple-symbols
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u/OutFractal The Broken 1d ago
If you can't access Sporcle because of your browser / adblocker, here's a different link:
https://www.deviantart.com/rdesignco/art/Vow-of-The-Disciple-Raid-Symbols-908993989
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u/DoctorFuss 1d ago
My weekly raid group is hanging by a thread, mostly so we can hang out and chat. We finally beat an encounter in the new raid last week and we all got lousy tier 1 armor pieces under our power level. What a punch in the junk. EoF remodeled the front door and bulldozed the rest of the house.
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u/spong_miester 1d ago
Same I've been a Destiny player since D1, played through the new campaign, hated the new metroid ball mechanics and uninstalled it. It's a terrible game at the moment and it didn't need to change.
The reason I stayed with D2 was the fact aside from the vaulting of old content there's never been any massive changes to how the game works, they seem to have overcomplicated thing just because they could.
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u/NovelCustard8283 1d ago
Pretty much the same for me. Played since D1 scrub casual and the new system I just don’t have time for it.
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u/Status_Reaction_8107 1d ago
Destiny became a chore to me, that’s when I knew it was time to let it go. I used to go just a season for a break, but I truthfully would refund the DLC if I could.
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u/GaladrielStar Moondust 1d ago
It’s truly insane that I went from putting 15 hrs a week into ROTN in June (that’s my available gaming time in a week), grinding with my clan buddies, to almost nothing.
Had just gotten super lucky and happened to fall into a new clan in May through a friend of mine … got to do GM nightfalls for the first time in my whole decade of Destiny play. Had an absolute blast running dungeons, clearing titles and triumphs, finally got full of materials like the golf balls. Did enough Crota that I’m not far from obtaining Neurocasm.
Now no one is on, can’t hardly find anyone even on FTF who is running a dungeon or raid that isn’t “must be expert” looking only for folks with LL400 and tier 4/5 gear. I’m just now at 325 — and 50 LL of that was Solstice, with the first 200 from the campaign in July.
I play casually enough that I can run some fireteam ops and crucible and get 5 levels in a week and it’s fine. Not fun, just fine.
But my god they have gutted this game and I hate to see it. Even the thought of doing the campaign on my two other characters is wearing me out.
Gonna buy Borderlands 4 this week and play that, prob will reinstall No Man’s Sky for the ship building, need to finish the excellent Cyberpunk DLC, started a NG+ in Starfield, hubs and I are playing Blue Prince….
This is a crowded market and Bungie doesn’t have the leadership to succeed with this kind of wholesale change to such a longstanding game. Just waiting for them to fire the entire Marathon team as soon as it launches, especially if it succeeds, given their response to TFS.
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u/thelochteedge 1d ago
The fact you have friends still playing and can do stuff together, cherish that! All of my friends/family/clan mates have moved on. I don't mind having solo being a path to levelling up but it just becomes so stale so quickly.
Rising is certainly keeping me entertained for now.
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u/VVenture2 1d ago
I get what you’re saying - but hilariously, people like you are the reason Bungie is happy to make these awful changes and commit to them.
Note how you say you really wish you enjoyed playing Destiny and just can’t get yourself to play it… and then mention that you still log in weekly just for the raid.
In Bungie’s mind, that’s a stunning success. As long as you log in weekly, Bungie know they’ve got you by the balls, and they’re not gonna change a damn thing. Why would they? You’ve shown them that you’re happy to take the beatings like a battered spouse and still come back every week!
If you want to actually make Bungie change, you need to leave. Stop playing. That’s the only metric they care about. If players leave, their numbers go down, Sony breathes down their necks and asks wtf they’re doing, etc.
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u/Maybe_In_Time 1d ago
I've picked up No Man's Sky again after two years away, plenty to catch up on there. I'll give tomorrow's update a try, but I'm really counting down the days until Borderlands 4 with friends.
Bungie is oblivious of the tsunami of huge titles between now and Ghost Of Yotei, Silksong was just the beginning
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u/Unlikely_Ad9967 1d ago
NMS is looking real good. Never played it before but I brought it last night. Been playing Destiny Rising and sad to say it’s way better than D2. Really waiting of Ghost of Yotei to drop as well.
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u/Raikyogiri 1d ago
Yeah I'm an OG D1 player. I was there in the alpha and beta. I was in college when it first came out and I continued playing through the ups and downs of Destiny 2. I started Destiny Rising and it might be a hot take but its been a way better experience for me than Destiny 2. I've been having a lot of fun. On the other hand, I started playing No Man’s Sky again with some buddies and I've been having a blast. I'll check out this update tomorrow on D2 and see what its about but I am pretty much going to stick to the other 2 then give the new borderlands a try.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_HOODIES 1d ago
Yeah, like you said, Silksong was just the start. (These games aren’t going to be for everyone so stick with me.)
You had Silksong and Hell is Us just release on the same day. You have Borderlands 4 in 4 days. Skate Early Access on the 16th, Silent Hill f on the 25th. Next month, Yotei on the 2nd, BF6 on the 10th, Pokemon Z-A on the 16th, Ninja Gaiden 4 on the 21st, Outer Worlds 2 on the 29th, and Arc Raiders on the 30th. Throw in smaller indie titles that are in there that people are excited for, Baby Steps, Little Nightmares 3, etc… that’s just in the next 2 months.
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u/theDefa1t 1d ago
Is it still possible to get the normandy sr1 in the game?
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u/Maybe_In_Time 1d ago
You can look up how to edit your save file on PC if you look around on Reddit. It won't get you banned, it's just a matter of editing it, loading up the game offline, claiming the missing rewards, saving the game, then turning the game back on and playing as normal
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u/trollshep good doggo! 1d ago
You can use this. I've used it a couple of times and one of them was to request the Normandy https://nomansapp.com
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u/Practical_Handle8434 22h ago
I bought it last night, found a naturally generated pit wider than the scanner would tell me the width of, made my base at the bottom and immediately trapped myself because the walls were too deep to allow me to tunnel through, and i couldn't find anything with ferrite to make more launch fuel with. Then i got stuck in a tiny 1x1 house while there was a firestorm outside bringing the ambient temp to 100°c. 10/10, i will be playing some more.
It's literally what Starfield wanted to be multiplied by seven, because it's also Starbound. I'm still mucking around on a planet learning the korvax language and enjoying my time but i can't wait to build my own ship
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u/KingToasty I dream of punching 19h ago
After being treated like a king by Hello Games, I couldn't go back to Bungie demanding $40 for gristly scraps.
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u/Hollowquincypl E.Bray is bae 11h ago
I'm juggling Oblivion and some mobile games atm. I had the bandwidth for D2, but i hit 200 and have no desire to play anymore Echoes Battlegrounds or Caldera.
This year has been great for games, and D2 picked a terrible time to basically self-destruct.
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u/SiegeOfMadrigal 1d ago edited 1d ago
I played the campaign for EoF and then I just stopped playing entirely. For the most part I was a regular player constantly grinding and engaging in all playlists and most Endgame content. Even leading up to EoF, I was participating a lot during RoTN and the heresy season.
For me, simply none of the changes they made to the game were very appealing whatsoever. My old weapons and rolls I worked hard for not being top tier anymore, my old builds and armor getting destroyed. A hefty and very demanding power grind that's just gonna get reset during renegades I think. Tier 4 and 5 drops being tied to said power level so you have to grind power before you can even have your RNG chance at weapon drops.
I see a lot of the posts on this subreddit, and a lot of the twids Bungie is rolling out, and I genuinely feel good that I stopped playing the game at this time. It's in shambles and so is Bungie at the moment.
People can be happy with some of the changes they made and that's fine, I'm not saying my own opinion is gospel, but I really feel like the game simply regressed everything it's been trying to do for the past four or five years now. Crafting/reworking adepts, reversing sunsetting, and overall trying to respect the players time a bit more.
Now this new game director with this dlc the game has done a full 180 by taking away all this stuff and quality of life in order to create a new grind for us, not actually innovating anything or incentivizing me to want to grind. Instead this entire dlc kinda just felt like "we're gonna take away all this shit we've been giving you for the past few years now so that you can spend more time grinding to get it all back again but with new stats and a new tier system attached to all of it." And I just said no.
All I really play now is WH40K: Darktide. Very very fun game.
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u/Herr-Schaefer 1d ago
Wow it's like I wrote this post, Darktide and all.
One of the thing's I love about Darktide is that crafting is so rewarding that any weapon can become nearly perfect so grinding is basically non existent, you just play what you want and have fun. Hopefully at some point Bungie learns that it's more fun to play a fun game than grind a boring one.
See you on Atoma reject.
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u/XKCD_423 I miss Ada-1 :( 1d ago
Yeah Darktide has gotta be one of the few games that feels nearly as good as Destiny does. Funnily enough, they're kind of the inverse of one another: Destiny's shooting is far better than its mêlée weapons, whereas Darktide's mêlée is far better than its shooting (makes sense since the mélêe weapons are called the 'primary' weapons!).
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u/multiplemuffins 1d ago
The different approach to game direction in EOF definitely feels like some good ideas with terrible execution. Definitely feels like there's been conflicting ideas on what direction the game should head in. The game under the old Game Director and the current one feel like opposites in many ways.
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u/Zhombe 1d ago edited 1d ago
They’ve been trying to manipulate game player statistics with zero care for the game being actually enjoyable. They’re just trying to min-max their bonuses based on player stats and sales only at this point.
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u/iDareToDream 1d ago
And funnily enough it seems like both sales and play time are tanking regardless of this - they're just oblivious to how the game is falling apart and how the community resentment is growing.
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u/zoompooky 1d ago
One of the community team posted on twitter last week about how awesome the momentum was and that they should keep it going lol.
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u/lumberfart 1d ago edited 17h ago
I’m in the exact same boat. I would preorder a copy of Destiny 3 in a heartbeat. Hell I’m currently even giving Destiny Rising a shot, out of sheer boredom. But man… I genuinely do not see myself ever touching Destiny 2 ever again unless it gets completely gutted and overhauled.
- Too much forgotten content just sitting there waiting its turn to be vaulted.
Too much reused weapons, enemies, and map assets in general. Nothing feels new and unique anymore.
Too much emphasis on grinding. The beautiful destinations tab was killed just to let Twitch streamers shave 30 seconds off of their daily grind.
So much fucking FOMO. If you don’t play this season right here right now, then you literally will never be able to play the new story or earn the new rewards. Fuck I wish Destiny was a proper MMO with years of curated content for new and old players to enjoy. Fuck all this sunsetting bullshit. Buy more server space. Make the game 500GB. Add a subscription model. Remove PS4 support. There are literally so many solutions.
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u/Practical_Handle8434 22h ago
People always say "wehhhh d3 wouldn't solve anything" but it's always a self report on their lack of imagination. Imagine how much less backlash the Portal would have had if it didn't replace everything prior, and if you could go back to D2 while waiting for them to iron out D3? Imagine if, because it's a fresh start, they wouldn't have to manage updating old loot, and in a best case scenario, they could just not use featured gear entirely because it's nothing more than a soft sunsetting method to avoid people pissing and shitting and whining about losing their god roll fatebringer or whatever. And it'd have growing pains, as if a single Destiny game hasn't, but it would have way more freedom and capability to experiment within it's own bounds, not tied to anything D2 has enforced on itself for 5 years now. They could make Stasis a fully functional subclass in line with the 3.0s that followed it, they could prevent you from launching away from a wall you're mantling if you presses jump too many times, it could stop loading screens taking you back a menu (which for me is one of the most infuriating things ever).
It's exhausting to see people want the best for the game, like you and i, but still refuse to imagine a future that could be better
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u/NukeLuke1 19h ago
This could have been D3 but using power grind to replace having meaningful content would still have been dogshit lol. D3 would never be a solution under the same developers and management that just gave us this awful overhaul stripping back an entire game.
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u/SliceOfBliss 19h ago
D3 shouldve happened twice already, at the end of Shadowkeep and then after The Witch Queen, just because the plan for D2 was no longer than 3 years, and it shows that many stuff just don't work or have bugs, it's a bad state of the game from many points of views.
Next iteration should be planned to last 5 years at least, and please don't remove content, and if they are gonna make it F2P, make DLC free, and gain revenue from Eververse... they're making good money already from it, just need full on free DLCs/expansions.
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u/Trueshinalpha 9h ago
We could have gotten four excellent games, from Destiny 1 to Destiny 4. But now all we get is the ruins of Destiny 2.
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u/Dorwrath 1d ago
Got to 405 and then felt the pinnacle grind was insane so decided to play Division 2, Helldivers 2 and Destiny Rising and I’m having fun.
I know fun is sort of subjective, but for me who has played Destiny since beta, Bungie killed the fun with this grind for me.
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u/sha-green 1d ago
Been running mostly Space Marine 2 and Rising, and the latter just keeps popping the same thought it my mind ‘see bungo, was it THAT difficult?’ I honestly had a lot of fun in campaign, the world feels alive, there’s a lot to do, and you get actually rewarded for playing. Nothing bloody revolutionary. The writing is just as much of a cringy shitfest that we had in Lightfall but the surrounding stuff is so much better that you’re letting this one bit fly under the radar. Will it turn into a greedy slog later? Possibly, who knows. I play while I have fun.
And agree with OP, even d1, a very outdated game with a lot of things that were later improved in d2 now feels better to run around and play because of the current state of d2.
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u/thatmillerkid 19h ago
Destiny Rising is basically what Bungie was afraid of "overdelivering" to us. It's a cosmic joke that a mobile gacha game feels like it respects me as a player more than the flagship AAA title it's based on.
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u/multiplemuffins 1d ago
Hell Divers is so good. Most of my old D2 clan have moved over to it as our main game. Currently grinding super credits for that ODST bundle. Gotta look good while spreading democracy
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u/Specific_Display_366 1d ago
I feel you. I really want to play destiny, but i have no motivation at all to play what destiny is at the moment.
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u/stephsco 1d ago
I'm a casual player who sunk thousands of hours into Destiny. It feels really weird not to play after like 8 years of consistent playing. I didn't mean to quit, it just sort of happened the past year.
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u/thatmillerkid 19h ago
Same. Played very little during Revenant, grinded pretty hard during Heresy, then fell off completely after beating the EoF campaign and looking at the grind ahead of me.
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u/rustycage_mxc 16h ago
Heresy was fuckin dope and so was the Dreadnaught. Then this happened. Lol
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u/thatmillerkid 11h ago
Heresy had me so hype for EoF ngl. They did the Dreadnaught so well that I preferred it to the D1 version in many ways. Little did I know that was Bungie applying lube to my unsuspecting butthole.
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u/Jatmahl 1d ago
Same... First time since D2 launch I uninstalled the game. All it took was EOF.
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u/MegaSentin 17h ago
Ever since reaching 350 light level, Destiny is just sitting in HDD...... I can't even tell if I want to uninstall it, I am not even sure what I am waiting for.
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u/OX__O 1d ago edited 22h ago
5 thousand hours..
Only to be hit by a perfectly structured uppercut of "they genuinely never cared and will choose the wrong choice every time without pause to kill the game and destroy player relations"
That being said, the pain from this is.. pleasant? Ive had way more fun playing other games and meeting sincerely nice people than I have in the last 3 thousand hours of D2. I only really hang around the subs to see the golden post "destiny 2 will be shutting down its servers on / /__"
The story goes through a shredder then is glued together behind a pay wall. Its not even a looter-shooter anymore its some generic MMO stats go up, then they nerf regrind FOMO circle. Horny armor and sparkle armor effects + anti solo mechanics being introduced meanwhile persistent issues that have been present for YEARS aren't addressed was my last nail.
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u/awsmpwnda 1d ago
100%. It’s weirdly normal for Bungie to constantly make dumb decisions, then take forever to acknowledge feedback, then another forever to act on that feedback. Literally this game isn’t worth it lol. Personally I feel like we’ve extracted all the novelty out of Destiny. There are no new or exciting experiences to be had here. The franchise literally needs to be handed to another studio for anything interesting to come to Destiny. Destiny Rising is evidence.
Ultimately, the issue lies in Bungie’s lack of competence and creativity.
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u/JGRN1507 1d ago
I've set everything aside in favor of Managed Democracy with the launch of Heldivers 2 on Xbox. It makes me want to keep engaging and I get to set my own difficulty and still progress my goals. I can make progress towards war bonds on any level while chilling with friends or listening to podcasts and can lock in and sweat when everyone is down to take things seriously. Destiny only wants me to play at max difficulty unlocked all the time and only play with friends if we happen to have the same light level.
I don't know what to say. I loved crafting, I loved progressing vendor ranks towards shaders and cosmetics for seasonal weapons. I haven't even bothered to finish the campaign. I just don't understand who they think this is all targeted towards. And it's exhausting that they refuse to take accountability for how much they've ruined the experience for a broad swath of players. My clan is a ghost town. No more GMs, exhausting light grind when we constantly praised Destiny's moves towards phasing out light level grinds, the death of crafting. This all socks and it honestly breaks my heart.
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u/MountainTwo3845 20h ago
I just started yesterday and that game is fun as hell. Didn't buy renegades. Probably won't be back until next dlc with bl4 coming too.
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u/alastor2001 1d ago
Now's the time to be playing other games. Borderlands 4, Helldivers on Xbox and Gears on PlayStation or finally touching that backlog. I've honestly lost interest in the FOMO engagement that D2 has been thriving on for so long and honestly won't play until something major changes in the leadership of the game. Way too many repeats of old mistakes at this point in development.
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u/TheMitchBeast 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yeah I completely agree with you. Using this time to play games like Helldivers and Space Marine 2. These games have got really good.
Edit: and Darktide!
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u/Naive-Archer-9223 1d ago
Helldivers came to Xbox and Bungie thinks grinding the portal is gonna keep me playing
Crazy
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u/TheMitchBeast 1d ago
It is crazy. I got to 400 and just got sick of scoring and the lack of activities with meaningful rewards. It totally sucks
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u/Naive-Archer-9223 1d ago
It's wild to me someone sat down and went "Yes this will do numbers. They're gonna love this"
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u/Dry_Cat_2083 1d ago
I came back to the game 2/3 months before EoF an the difference between then an now is night an day I was so excited to play an had things I wanted to achieve every single night as I had a lot to catch up on, now fast forward to EoF 80% of the game has been sunset as it doesn’t drop relevant loot, so your stuck doing strikes an story mission content over an over again it’s really lacking.
The portal was a good idea in principle but as anything with bungie they under cook it an require a year or so to fix the issue they made I’ve gone from wanting to play every day for hours on end to not logging in for weeks on end again all because they wanted to change it up an fell way short of that.
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u/tactis1234 1d ago
I ain't coming back until they bring back crafting, fix the grind, and remove the power reset nonsense. Didn't buy EOF, ain't buying Renegades. Destiny doesn't respect my time.
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u/DepletedMitochondria 1d ago
It's so god damn bad. No doing your playlist rep tracks, no weekly raid & dungeon for folks to focus on, just grind grind grind whatever 5-6 activities are in the portal since Fireteam Ops bonus rewards never happen (strike timers).
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u/BinderBinate Force Unleashed the Super 1d ago
I'm glad I'm not the only one who wants the portal gone. Gone gone. Not fixed, not given more activites – REMOVED.
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u/Stooboot4 1d ago
My problem above everything is vault space. I have no desire to play when half my time is spent playing vault manager
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u/General_PATT0N 1d ago
Same. Completely lost interest in it, never happened before in 10yrs of playing.
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u/Derekeys 1d ago
For me, the philosophy from the higher ups isn't about fun, it's about trying (foolishly) to find balance.
I could go back to the beginning of Destiny 2 and find a post I made about how this constant search for balance has sucked away the fun of the game. I get the constant rebalancing in PVP but my enjoyment, and I think the historically memorable enjoyment of Destiny has been the big moments with other players and friends using fun and OP weapons and abilities.
Here I am, a space wizard who has defeated gods and screamed my head off getting a Gjally or an Icebreaker (the OG), or watching Truth rockets make left turns, or watching me and all my friends just laugh our asses off in King's Fall when people were screwing up the ship jumping, and NOW... I am supposed to enjoy seeing one number mildly become a bigger number.
Now is the time to let FUN be at the forefront of decision making.
Yes Bungie... fun. I know you are allergic to the word.
Here is my belief of how conversations are going at Bungie:
"Ummmm, did you see that titans have a 2.245% damage imbalance on such and such exotic which could contribute to PVP statistics showing less engagement blah blah blah blah."
They're lost in the trees man.
Someone needs to come in with the sword of FUN and slice through all of this crap and ask better questions like:
"Wouldn't it be FUN if exotic armor had catalysts?!"
"Wouldn't it be FUN if sunbracers had 5 grenades again?"
"Wouldn't it be FUN if we brought consecration back?"
"Wouldn't it be FUN if super cooldowns were not so punishing?"
"Wouldn't it be FUN if players were rewarded for their time?"
I could go on. Simply put, the incentive to play has dwindled not because Destiny doesn't have all the ingredients to be a damn good game still, or that it's over saturated and we all get it by now, it's because Bungie repeatedly makes decisions that focus on paralyzing balance decisions and less on what could be fun.
If I were to create a poll right now and ask the Destiny community some of their fondest memories of Destiny I guarantee you it wouldn't sound like this, "My favorite memory is when they released patch 1.3.35 and special ammo got a nerf in PVP. Such good times."
No way man, it's the ridiculous and unbalanced things that will always have my heart.
The dick room in King's Fall, so stupid and fun. Vex Mythoclast when it reigned supreme. Gjally during its heyday. Thorn in Trials. Telesto armor. Raid mechanics that didn't require quadratic equations. Seriously, Salvation's Edge and Desert Perpetual are back to back slogs. NO ONE in my clan is playing those things for fun. They're not fun.
1000 silver bet that if all raids were dropping T5 gear, everyone would be losing their crap to go get some fun Vault, DSC, or Crota gear.
Imagine seeing Fireteam Finder filled to the brim with people looking for raid groups because it was fun as hell and you got awesome loot from it. Oh man, such low hanging fruit. Sitting right there.
Screw nerfing for a hot minute, focus on buffing, focus on FUN.
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u/Fanglove 1d ago
i miss logging in every Tuesday for the new story mission. There is nothing to log in for anymore
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u/Vivid_Succotash_6298 1d ago
You know, i kinda just wanna play with a fucking hud on once in a goddamn while without having to be 40 light levels under just to reach a decent score that will make the activity worth my time.
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u/Popular_Dad 1d ago
No hud is such a garbage modifier. Why don't they have a modifier that randomly freezes controls while they're at it
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u/ShadowBlaze17 1d ago
It'll be even worse on Tuesday since they're making Locked Loadouts less beneficial to encourage people to use Touche or one of the new Avant Garde modifiers. I'd be amazed if LL was more than 2 arrows.
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u/Grogonfire 1d ago
What? You don’t want your experience with the new activity to be purely -50 no ammo rage and shrouded No HUD shield explode hell? The privilege!
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u/LovelyJoey21605 Shaxx; Dark Lord, Husbando of Savathuun and Ruler of the Doritos 1d ago
The game is currently, as of writing this, bottoming out at 10248 concurrent players according to steam. Looks like it'll be hitting 4-digit numbers soon.
You are not alone thinking the game is in a terrible state, and Bungo did it all to themselves. But I'm sure, Justin, Mr. "UndErdeLIver on PurPOse" is gonna get right on fixing Bungies fuck-up. Aaaaaaaany month now.
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u/DepletedMitochondria 1d ago
I'm amazed there hasn't been any talk of layoffs. Probably because they need to get marathon out of development hell.
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u/Short-Turnover-8597 1d ago
Same here, I really want to play the game but I just can't do it. Ill load up the game, look at the portal menu and have no motivation to play it.
I really hope they change everything back to how destiny used to be before this expansion. The portal, the gear grind and making a lot of the old content obsolete really took the fun out of the game for me.
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u/AgoraSnepwasdeleted 1d ago
Same. Didn't feel like buying edge of fate at launch but thought about getting it during a sale but when I saw the portal and the fact that this new loot and grinding system straight up made all guns prior to EOF completely obsolete just genuinely made me upset at the game and never wanna pick it up again. I have thousands of hours sunk into the game too..
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u/HotMachine9 1d ago
Same. It's the most tight feeling FPS out there. But I log in, and all the content I want to do is irrelevant, so no one I play with is online. And I already owned all the Braytech weapons back in Warmind. I dont feel particularly incentinivsed to get them again from solo ops where I can't play with my friends or play the same exotic mission I've probably completed over 100 times now.
The new raid doesn't meaningfully progress power, and half of my friends didn't get the DLC after trying the portal, so that's a dead activity for me. So what's left is Kepler and the grind for that is replaying the same missions over and over again which id be fine with but the ball makes me motion sick and the missions themselves grind to a halt as soon as one of the mechanics are introduced. It's just not as well done as the earlier campaigns, and it feels even worse with modifiers active.
Im like 350 power. And to reach 450, its the same grind but slower and more painful with more modifiers, and I just dont want to play a game that forces me to repeat the same input commands like im Chat GPT. If it weren't against TOS, I'd argue Bungie wants you to use boosters with how horrible progression is in new D2.
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u/Yojimitsu 1d ago
I’m swapping over to Battlefield 6, probably gonna uninstall D2. It’s a shame, it truly had some very high highs but after the last few months it’s just felt completely dead. Every one of my friends is done as well. Feels like the death rattle for this game sadly.
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u/0rganicMach1ne 1d ago
The combat and universe will always be amazing but I’m over the live service garbage. It’s gotten worse and worse as time has gone on. More exploitative and grind is used as an excuse to provide less content. It started with the walking back of crafting(best thing they ever did) for me and seeing what EoF was going to be was enough for me to pass on it. The game will never revert to something I’d want to play again at this point.
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u/DeanCorso9229 1d ago
Every time there is a post like this one in this sub, and every time is all about "I hope Bungie does X or Y". Just wake up once and for all, Bungie won't do shit, we saw this countless times and it only got worse, it's time to accept reality and stop deluding yourself, Destiny is gone and it won't come back.
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u/ExoMonk 1d ago
I enjoy the concept of the portal; like the rotation of activities and specific loot make it really nice to specifically go for a piece of gear and know you'll get it. Arms week was fun and Solstice was the most amount of hours I've logged in years. Solstice felt so rewarding to me, but then it left and the rewards and happy brain chemicals disappeared.
There's a metric fuckton of activities to play in this game and 95% of it aren't in the portal. And this is my opinion, but if you can only get new loot and power increasing rewards from portal activities then the game has the LEAST amount of content ever.
I'll check out Ash & Iron and I'll return to any events that are as rewarding as Solstice was, but outside of that I'm going to just sit on the sidelines and watch from afar. I just started playing Diablo 4 and it's scratching some itches. Never played a game like this before so we'll see how long I stick with it.
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u/Savefunction 1d ago
Same boat. Been playing since Arrivals, never took a break. Destiny was my passion and my second life.
Now it feels like a horrible second job and nearly everything I loved about it is gone or made obsolete. I barely find the will to log in. If it wasn't for my clan I probably wouldn't. Still level 225 btw
Subbed back to FFXIV and for the first time in years I don't feel like instantly unsubbing and going back to Destiny
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u/lost_not_found88 Are you proud yet Shaxx? 1d ago
I hit 300 last week. And I'm done, we were kinda in a sweet spot before EoF and I want that back. This whole new system just makes the game feel like a job rather than something fun. I sot feel rewarded. 10 years of weapons and armour reduced to basically nothing worth keeping (yet my vault remains full)
Could've added armour bonuses to the world pool.
Could've added tiers to world drops or allow us to upgrade previous weapons the tiered system.
Featured exotics is a trash idea.
Anything except what we have now, bungie oversold EoF. They're not listening to our main gripes.
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u/boxlessthought Come join r/DestinyThePin 1d ago
Honestly same last 2 weeks were log in, check eververse for any BD cosmetics I wanted, and log off.
Very good replacement game; emulating android is on pc (bluestack or mumu) and playing destiny rising. Sure it’s got pay 2 win all over it but without spending (okay I caved and spent like 12$ cad) I’m still having a good time and because it has some barrier to progress limiting you daily it’s much less of a commitment while being more fun and rewarding. Great story moments and characters, content is new and fun. It’s like a new Destiny.
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u/ScottishW00F Titan Master Race 1d ago
I haven't played since last year (almost 1 year to the day!) I still like to watch D2 content creators tho
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u/Thekarens01 1d ago
When Destiny 1 was still a current game people were complaining about it. If you have never played it, it’s worth checking out, but if you were like me and had already played thousands of hours I wouldn’t see the point of going back.
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u/Love_Exciting 1d ago
i played Destiny Rising and was schocked...and just kinda shown how fucking lazy the d2 team is idk what they are doing but ALL game modes that came with rising are fun and good. its insane to me ( i never played gatcha games) but its fun .
thats so sad idk but i dontthink bungie is gona recover from that .
we are at a ALL TIME LOW and that isnt for no reason .
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u/stormblessed27_ 1d ago
Yea man we’re all in the same spot. I beat the campaign, realize I didn’t want to do anything else and just started playing other games.
There are A LOT of good games out there so rather than think about how much you miss playing this, just enjoy what’s out there.
Bungie will either course correct or they won’t.
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u/Xelon99 1d ago
I'm currently playing Grounded 2. Finished the Alpha-campaign (the game is still far from done, but feels great) and at the moment I'm sitting still, waiting for a specific creature to appear in a specific spot. This alone is more fun than Destiny 2 is at the moment. And that's wild to me, how they managed to make doing nothing more fun.
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u/NCR_High-Roller Nope. 22h ago
Been here since the D1 Alpha. Played D2 since Warmind. Left for 2/3 years after beyond Light. Came back right in the middle of Final Shape and left again this season. This game really just can't have a stable identity, can it?
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u/RC_0001 God is dead, and we have nuked Him with ghorn. 20h ago
In one fell swoop, they made most old content obsolete, most old guns obsolete, most old armor obsolete, most old destinations obsolete, and replaced it with a single campaign, a smattering of new gear, and a menu where you can easily jump into the small amount of old content they didn't make obsolete. Then they topped it off by extending the grind, so you need to play more of that old content than ever before. They did almost nothing to relieve the awful NPE so we aren't getting an influx of new lights, and vets don't fucking want to play the same shit we've been playing for 8 years anymore. Solo Ops is the closest thing to new content we got outside the campaign, and it's just the same old locations with tweaked enemy spawns and a couple voice lines.
Nobody calling the shots for this game gets it.
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u/TheBandit_42 a.k.a Black Spindle 1d ago
Trust me, you are not alone! I can't begin to believe Bungie thought the current platform within Destiny would be well liked/received. Working in software development as a Proj Manager....I feel that other influences were likely in play.
Regardless, the current state of the game is not alot of fun to play. There's no incentive to play more than a few hours a week. As a solo player, once I complete the daily bonus drops and banshee bounties...there's no reason to keep playing.
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u/Allanprickly 1d ago
Iv been playing rising and apart from the energy system and region locking,it's really good.
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u/Ghrievr 1d ago
Pretty much everything you just said is copy paste for me. I have played this game a long time. And yeah, there have been periods where I’ve taken a break for a few weeks to play other games but D2 would always get me back. I’d be right back into grind mode and would always have the question in my head asking why did I stop playing? The game was always great, I just needed a break once in a while.
With the new expansion though, I was pretty excited to jump into the new systems and really did think this was going to be the evolution D2 was needing to take it to the next level. I had started to feel tired of the formula, but this made me feel it would jump start another 10 year delve into Destiny.
I played on Warlock for…. Three days? I started to get a taste for how everything felt and I just had a brick wall moment. I put the game down and picked up Cyberpunk for a new playthrough. That led into Persona 5 Royal, Wuthering Waves, and now I’m waiting on Borderlands 4. I picked up D2 for an evening after my long time friend finally had the time to start the new content, and I haven’t played again since. That was like, 3/4 weeks ago I think.
Honestly, I’m torn. I have always wanted D2 to be the game that never ended and always felt I would always be along for the ride. The new DLC has just completely killed it for me. The quirks of the dlc, the new levelling, the tiered weapons and armour. None of it does anything for me. The portal has killed off so much content. All my weapons have been sunset. I’m just not doing this all again. I feel like Bungie have had enough ‘reset’ moments and I have gone along with every single one. But I just feel like my time is completely disrespected, wasted even, with the game now.
I do understand that the studio and the game are going through a massive rejig right now, but I think until I can be shown that the game has hit its stride, I don’t know if I will be touching it until then. It saddens me to think it may never get there though.
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u/Innersmoke 1d ago
I grinded up to 400 and then just set it down. Nothing else to do. No new guns. My time isn’t respected anymore
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u/Divine_Despair 1d ago
These days I just play to get the bright dust from the Portal pass. After that I done for the week.
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u/JeanLucPicardAND 1d ago
To anyone in a similar position as I am, I definitely recommend checking out Destiny 1 if you have a console that can play it. Super fun if you can get over the 30fps and no fov slider and still has a healthy population on Xbox one. Also most importantly the progression is fun :)
I haven't played D2 in years, but I still pop into D1 from time to time.
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u/NullPointer79 23h ago
On top of so many things that make this update really bad, one of the things is how anti lfg this update is. I know content creators wanted custom modifiers but they are just bad for the game. They are anti lfg. It makes it hard to just make a post and people join quickly already having their build ready to go. This may be anecdotal but to me the game has been popular when it's endgame is lfg friendly. Sure, some people are running 5 feats with lfg now but the vast majority can't. They need to go back to the difficulty levels of year 1 kings fall hard mode raid. The game and raid was very popular then. Sure, content creators will find it very easy but are we really making the game for 1% of the population? The game now seems to be entirely designed around keeping the top 1% engaged for longer? Why? To keep Destiny in the twitch directory longer? Content creators were done with the 450 grind within 3-4 weeks. All this has done for me is that it has killed the variety and fun. I used to play all 3 characters with different builds but now everything feels so grindy that I just play with the same 2-3 builds on a single character. Everything feels way more restrictive.
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u/Gate_of_Divine 23h ago
Like most, I’m just bouncing between games feeling lost. 😞 it feels like Destiny is over. The latest “DLC” is just a step or two from servers in maintenance mode. The next few months are going to tell a lot.
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u/CrispyToast99 23h ago
I had a similar realization the other day. My playtime has dropped significantly over the last month or so, and I'm starting to miss it, the itch is there. But when I think about booting up the game now and what awaits me, and the sorry state of all the pre-EoF content, I realize that what I really want to play is a game that sadly no longer exists.
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u/Sad-Gas2874 23h ago
I feel u bro I love it and still play but just 4-6 months ago was so much better
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23h ago
It's that dumb orb transformation thing for me, it's terrible, I've about 4500 hours between D1 & D2, feels like a totally different game an absolute shit one at that.
Haven't played the game since the first week of the new season thing, won't again, games gone, no one I played with plays it since then.
Awful decisions..
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u/EndriagoHunter 22h ago
Same boat.as you OP, I stopped just before the end of Solstice though.I want to play but just the thought of the boring ass grind through the portal activities just makes me groan and want to go play something else. I miss Destiny, I miss what it was when it was fun.
I got to I think 370ish light before I gave up? I donno, I can't be bothered.
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u/Estrafirozungo 22h ago
I’m on the same boat. I watched some videos about tomorrow's update but I still feel zero urge to play the game
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u/AgentZeroHour 22h ago
Same. Sadly. I have so many hours into Destiny and have worked to accomplish everything you can do, but the game is soulless garbage right now.
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u/Practical_Handle8434 22h ago
It makes me wonder if they really need new activities and whatever else. The most straightforward path to make the game as good as it was, as i see it, is if they just stop fucking adding random bullshit and revitalize older loot. I said it somewhere wistfully but forgot where, but surely it's less dev time to update an activity's loot to accommodate the tiering system than it would be to make it craftable. I pray that if we don't see improvement for Renegades, that the renegades mid season update might be literally nothing but loot refresh. Imagine having a reason to play your favorite activities again? Across the entire game? I for one love the Pit of Heresy weapon aesthetic, even if it's shared with Altars of Sorrow, but the weapons are so dog ass compared to anything we have nowadays, or even before Final Shape.
In the meantime, I'll be playing other games. For those also wondering what to play, I'm gonna say it here with unfathomable vindication because people laughed at me for saying it a year ago, try Warframe. They care about the players there. It's close enough to Destiny that it has plenty of other Destiny Refugees and even more open arms from veterans willing to teach you the game. I'll probably be playing No Man's Sky, Monster Hunter, Pokemon and maybe I'll do my annual re-play of Borderlands: the Pre-Sequel. Warlocks will feel right at home with that movement system because the double jump is literally the same
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u/Jack_intheboxx 22h ago
The half assed sunsetting not updating other areas of the game with the new system.
Then there's the limited portal that makes the game feel even smaller. When you have a huge Destination tab full of activities but they drop at power rendering them useless when you made grinding power necessary.
Featured gear is absolutely garbage, I want to play and use what I want
PvE is boring because of these things.
So much content has been removed from past seasons making the game hollow.
PvE has Campaign, Destination that hopefully joins the world tab, timegated seive activity and the raid.
Then tomorrow we get exotic mission and another 3 man activity that looks uninspiring.
Gambit the PvEvP mode that has untapped potential and they ignore it.
PvP longterm mistreatment and neglect, shortsighted and lack of vision. PvP right now is the only replayable content even with lack of updates. We are still down on maps from sunsetting, they bring some back like they did us a favour when they should've never left.
Maps are hard to make? Bring in the D1 maps then it takes a long time, we'll you should've started.
People still look back to D1 because you haven't done a good enough job porting things over.
Wrath of the machine
OG Cosmodrome all of it.
Banshee with its test weapons and packages are still way more interesting.
D1 Strikes and PvP maps, classics that should be in D2.
Day and night cycles on Destinations along with the rain made it feel alive.
SRL the fact that D Rising has itis a slap in the face. It's easy to reuse this as yearly content aswell.
Obviously we want new stuff but they don't seem to able to deliver.
Escalation protocol was peak and we need that sort of activity back.
12 man activities, its the future, shouldn't be a one off.
PvE activity that comes along like Iron banner.
Destiny has too many issues, Bungie isn't capable anymore to fix. They're always nerfing and fixing things they break but never inventing for longterm just for it to be destroyed.
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u/xJagMasterGx 22h ago
I'm the same way. Multiple times in the last few weeks I've booted it up, just to close it because I remember the only thing to do is grind portal. It's unfun and a slog. And this is from someone who's already grinded to the 350s.
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u/cannibalqueef 22h ago
I’m with you. Played the ever-loving fuck out of D1 (my first ps4 game), took a break, came back to Rise of Iron. Loved it. Same with D2- bought it when it dropped. Took a break. Came back and all of the Red War stuff was gone, and it was confusing to me. Fumbled through it, bought the expansions blah blah, but I have had zero incentive to buy EoF. I understand “punishing” free to play types, but to see it overarch and extend into punishing paying players with this turd ass update.
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u/LordAnnihilator1 "*BZZT* Oh hey, finally got my season. About freaking time." 22h ago
You summarized my feelings perfectly. I burned out towards the end of Revenant and never really played Heresy (to my mild regret, because apparently it was the best Episode), and I opted not to pre-order EoF. Turned out to be a good decision, as all these changes I've been seeing and hearing about have done the exact opposite of re-igniting my interest in playing.
I could've been drawn to finally do Salvations Edge, or farm the Red Borders from VoG - but what's the point if none of that content is useful to the endgame? What's the point if Crafting has been outright ignored and maligned, concepts borrowed to set up Tiered loot and its Harmonizers forgotten?
I could've challenged the new campaign for its rewards, but what's the point when the highest difficulty sounds less like a test of skill and more a test of patience with how tanky the enemies are? I could work towards the Endgame, but what's the point when the grind to get there is both the worst power grind we've EVER had - and a temporary one to boot? And the endgame is extremely limited by featured gear and some painfully bad modifiers?
I could be excited for the future of Destiny, but I can't. Because EoF has shown that between layoffs, the Marathon disaster, and new management and direction, the game is not looking like it will capitalise on Final Shape's strong finale and potential. Because they've taken the soul out of the Plaguelands and shoved the Red Legion in there for the umpteenth time, just with fancy collars now. Because the last returning D1 raid, WOTM, looks even less likely considering they refuse to contrive a lore reason to bring back the Splicers when they've happily done so for other things.
I could be playing Destiny 2, but I won't. Because by the time I thought about going back, it stopped being the game I was excited about.
(P.S.: I can't play D1 myself, but power to those getting enjoyment out of it.)
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u/IConsumeGrass14 21h ago
I honestly wish they didnt fuck it up so badly, Destiny 2 was REALLY fun towards the end of Heresy and they seemed to be doing well…then EoF came out. Now the choices for that destiny style gunplay are…gone. RISING is a dumbed down version that just doesnt hit the same, and as much as I WANT to like Borderlands…it just doesnt hit the same. Theres no true replacement for destiny 2 and probably never will be at this point..
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u/glovehandstrong 21h ago
I miss it too. It was the only game I played with my partner and I haven’t touched it since we finished EOF. I’ve moved onto another game and he’s continued playing… I’ve just got no interest at all.
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u/CruffTheMagicDragon 21h ago
I’m playing Ash and Iron until I finish my Season of the Lost pass and then logging out
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u/Ehhgony Warlock 21h ago
Same here man. Between D2's release and now, I have around 7K Hours invested. Have multiple Day one Raid & Dungeon Completions, Bungie Bounties, Few Collectors Editions purchased & even a raid jacket.
Walked away after The Final Shape, cause it felt so gutted and with lay offs & crew changes, you can tell it doesn't have a lot of passion left in the game. Tried coming back when EoF came out, and felt even worse.
The shooting doesn't feel fun anymore, the directories are an absolute cluster fuck. Doesn't feel friendly to navigate and go through at all, so could just imagine what it's like for New Lights. The engine still being the same as D1's 2014 Engine is a huge detriment, especially with Previous Gen console support. Constant disconnects, errors, playback issues and hit reg. The game is a hollow shell of it's former glory, and it's disheartening.
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u/MrDEATH88 21h ago
Same im addicted to helldivers now. If bl4 isnt ass ill prob play that until bungie stops smoking whatever they on.
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u/mydogcaneatyourdog 21h ago
Last played: May 22.
Play time: 7800 hours.
I keep looking at the updates and subreddit, hoping for massive overhauls and reversions to everything EOF. It feels like it's just L after L - the biggest W Bungie has tried to claim is not continuing with a massive L they had planned to roll out. Justin Truman needs to stop memeing on his hated "over deliver" speech and revisit the idea of earning the player trust. They are very very very far away from the monetization step in the process.
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u/ShawtySayWhaaat 20h ago
Remember when we would stand there shooting into a small cave for hours? Good times
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u/vankamme 20h ago
Same. Destiny rising scratched a small itch for me that destiny 2 hasn’t in years
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u/Important_Orange_528 20h ago
unfortunately seems like DestinyTheGame and resources are no more with DestinyTheRising…
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u/azor81 20h ago
I’m convinced that in the future, when historians review the computer game industry, the decision by Bungie to make Marathon rather than Destiny 3 will be one that will be never understood & cited as the starting point in the demise of a once great studio. Imagine coming off the high of the final shape into D3. It would have been glorious.
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u/Sister_Elizabeth 20h ago
I don't know why Bungie has hated Rise of Iron. They pretend it never happened, outside of being called "Saladin's Young Wolf" like once, but still exploit SIVA for nostalgia bait while avoiding any and all mentions of it.
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u/chaoticsynergist 20h ago
It feels like Bungie much like they often do miss the mark on changes they make.
these changes feel like they are not made from people who play and enjoy the game as players but made by developers/businessmen who care far more about engagement metrics and monetary returns than player enjoyment and retention.
a prime example of this is the RAD content coming in the portal as of next week. A player enjoyment facing change would be to make that content available in the portal with updated loot pools and armor for that past loot. A developer facing change would be how they enacted it: just content thrown into the portal for the sake of fleshing out pinnacle ops since the portal is bone dry on meaningful variety.
I don't sincerely think that everyone at bungie did the 10 power to 400/550 grind and thought that was an enjoyable experience throughout and wasnt a boring slog bogged down by the modifier and scoring system.
they have some good changes. the tier system is nice but i think the only thing disagree with it is tier 5s of armor or weapons still granting a benefit over tier 4s rather than just being a peacocking tier. All it takes is a origin trait good enough when enhanced that t1-4 of that weapon is seen as functionally useless. on armor its okay but i think maybe t4s should have been what t5s grant stat wise and t5s instead grant special effects similar to weapons
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u/ReBob_ReDux Gambit Prime // Time for Prime 19h ago
I played every day the first month of Forsaken 2 launch up until weapon sunsetting. I stopped until they were unsunset. I played much less but still a lot until EoF dropped. I tried but have lost all interest in this version of D2. I stopped playing again.
I don't need this game. The devs won't see or care about my playtime or how I feel. I question why I still check this sub a few times a week anymore. I don't expect the game to be fixed either.
I'll miss it though, I guess. When it was fun.
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u/Swizfather 19h ago
My buddy got me to get back into destiny 2 recently and I was absolutely not prepared for this. The campaign was horrible, I like new mechanics but not them shoved down my throat in every fight AND between every fight. Then I finished it at like 155 light and got told I just need to grind portal activities for gear +5 higher to hit 200…. You need +8 on a piece of gear to go up 1 light level. You telling me I need to do 2 activities or a bonus drop activity to get +1 light level when I need 45??? Then that’s just to get to higher content not even pinnacle???? What the hell happened
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u/hylianarbiter 19h ago
If they had made the Portal, in addition to the existing systems, made the existing systems drop the new Tier loot, and removed "featured gear" this entire scenario would never have happened.
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u/Daocommand 19h ago
Haha every time I bring up Siva I get cussed at, they attempt to humiliate me, I get belittled, and I get constantly assaulted with their opinion when I politely tell them we disagree on the concept that I think they should write another Siva story arc. My wife is an actual author, she listened and read some of Destiny’s story and asked why I was playing a game meant for children… I think an actual writer could write a better story.
On your posting about the gameplay and portal, I completely agree. I have been trying to make myself get back online to get some swords and shotguns. I just can’t f’ing stand the brigg or the tank. I hate the controls and the mechanic. I just can’t do it
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u/cinderful Drifter's Crew // Ding. 18h ago
Are you saying you don’t like Call of Duty 300GB download Amusement Park Portal of squares of art that change each week, oops all Destiny Theme?
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u/BrotatoChip04 18h ago
Same boat. I finished the campaign on one character, got to level 200-ish, and quit. There’s just nothing that I enjoy in the game anymore.
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u/rustycage_mxc 16h ago
I don't like the weapon/gear changes at all. They complicated all of it for no reason. I'd rather do activities for pinnacles. Set bonuses are pretty cool, but everything else sucks.
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u/lastdarknight Drifter's Crew 16h ago
I spent so much time unlocking seasonal weapon crafting blueprints for they system to be forgotten
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u/SorrybecauseI 16h ago
Yep, feel the exact same way. Been playing D1 a bunch lately, which is great, but there are some features from D2 that I miss. I just miss that pre-Lightfall era of the game so much.
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u/Acrobatic-Car-119 16h ago
Since I quit after The Final Shape, Destiny Rising just came out and has been a breath of fresh air!
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u/suplexclimax 16h ago
Same, got 5000 hours but I just don't have the NEED to play it anymore. Apart from Helldivers totally taking over my playtime with Arrowhead's generosity while Bungie forces me to grind to hit power levels I've already reached multiple times in more than half a decade.
It's just tiring man.
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u/Lepidopterran 15h ago
I've got almost 4,000 hours on Steam, and, same. Held off on buying EoF since I wasn't sure where the game would land, and boy am I glad I did, as it would have been a huge waste of my money. Been exploring my backlog and playing Last Epoch for my number-goes-up needs. The narrative trainwrecks of the Season of Echoes and Season of Revenant, as well as the dropping of crafting in Revenant and Heresy, really killed my enjoyment and killed the clans I was playing with.
It's a shame to see how much of a horrible grind the game has turned into, and without any communication that might make me feel like they're actually listening and trying to fix the trainwreck, I don't see this changing any time soon.
I really liked the way the rewards system worked, being able to buy physical things to represent my achievements. I loved that part. I don't understand why no other game has done it.
I think the worst here is that no one at Bungie with any power to change the situation will read your post, or my comment. The people who make decisions don't listen, and they don't care to listen. And that makes me really sad.
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u/knifeyspooney3 Team Bread (dmg04) // Avenge the fallen, whatever it bakes 14h ago
I got to 400 power and stopped playing. It was a slog. I think with the update tomorrow I'm going to play the story content and then go for a couple T4/5 items and then drop it again. I think I'm less inclined because I just don't have as much fun playing the same 4 pinnacle ops and the solo ops has burnt me on why I play the game. I liked the old seasonal model. playing the new season activities, especially the 6 player ones where just fun. I miss Ketchcrash, Menagerie, Sundial, Override. they were easy activities where you just slayed out in a huge group and could have a laugh with a couple friends
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u/ItsRhyss7542 1d ago
I had a conversation with a friend at work about Destiny in general, and it lost its light ages ago, and it all started when content started to get vaulted, No company should ever take away paid content from its consumer, it’s criminal, players started to dwindle, but then after that with more updates to come, it didn’t just feel like destiny anymore, Destiny 2 failed expectations, it could never live up to what Destiny 1 was, and it’s sad, Nobody wanted tier gear and portal system, they should have left the game at TFS when they ended the saga and leave the game so players could enjoy it. And make Destiny 3 with all these ‘big changes or ideas they had’
But it’s to late for Destiny 3, they had opportunity to do it and now missed that opportunity, I was a huge Destiny fan back in the day, now meh.
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u/Pandakidd81 Titan > Hunter 1d ago
Logged on Saturday morning to play, slogged through a match made 300+ level inverted spire to get no 1 drop that was above anything else I had .....logged off.
Destiny has finally gotten beyond boring.
Baffling to me they thought we would be excited to run 5-7 year old content over and over again while making it more and more difficult.
Serious question, are we getting a keplar style campaign with renegades? If not, woof I'll prob call it a day , this version of the game is prob the worst it's ever been
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u/EarthenAvenger 1d ago
I get it, I haven’t even done the campaign. I have, however, enjoyed the loot chase. I’m at 320 LL ish. I just play the pinnacles and the rewarding activities(there needs to be more) and hop off and play other games. There does seem to be less in the game right now. And there’s a teleporting enemy issue that needs to be looked at cos it’s supremely annoying. I don’t like the way they’ve restricted us to a few of our exotics and weapons to be used throughout the season. The vault space issue needs to be addressed asap. And the item management thing, it seems the more time I spend in D2 the more time in spending doing item management rather than playing the game. I love the game. Spent a decade playing it with friends and my brothers. And now we seem to all be playing solo. There are so many Obstacles to enjoy playing the game right now that , like I said, I jump on, I’ll play for an hour or so. Jump off and play something else. That’s how I’m gonna treat D2 until either they resolve the heaps of issues or the game at least gets some compelling content again.
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u/Kaliqi 1d ago
You know the game's fucked when a company decided to double down on things everyone hates.
Somehow after all those years they made zero chabges to patrol areas... Except the big new tank in Nessus i guess.
Do something with the game. There are people who are willing to go our there just to FISH. Why not work on that and still sell cosmetics instead of forcing people to run the same activity forever?
Gane could have been so much more, but ever since Crota's raid was released i had no real reason to join until the next expansion.
Idk about the others, but seasons almost never hit the spot for me. I miss the first 4 Years or years of this franchise. I'd rather replay the game after 7 months and have a blast than being dripfeed over time.
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u/JOBO5226 1d ago
I genuinely do not know if they have the man power to fix Destiny 2 at this moment in time
Feels like we have reached a point of no return. Too big of changes to revert back, too many things to fix before the game seems enjoyable on all fronts again. The game doesn't feel like Destiny anymore and it looks highly unlikely that Bungie has time to fix the game before it either gets axed by Sony or hits the final little player base falloff.
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u/r0flwaffles 1d ago
IMO the game isn’t salvageable in its current state. They have no resources and their leadership is incompetent so I expect a slow bleed moving forward.
The only people still logging on are those who play D2 as their main game, so Bungie is just gonna milk them for all they’re worth. No one recommends this game to any of their friends because they know it’s awful for anyone who hasn’t already invested years into the franchise.
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u/moore-tallica 1d ago
Same here. Day 1 vet, 3000 hours in, every catalyst completed up to the final shape. Can't play it any more. They messed up
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u/Ink_Jet_ 1d ago
It feels like player agency was stripped away when this new update came out. Sure, the portal offers easier opportunities to get loot but at least with the older system I could still go do ANY activity I wanted and feel like I’d something decent for my time
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u/SneakyPanduh 1d ago
Borderlands 4 baby. Stardew Valley. Everybodies Golf Hot Shots. Gears Reloaded. Other games are keeping me from even thinking about Destiny. I have no interest in Destiny whatsoever.
Bungie has fucked up.
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u/Mister_Sheepy_Cheese 1d ago
I miss playing too my friend. However, there are plenty games out there that scratch a similar itch. Just punt d2 down for a bit, let the devs cook and check back in 6 months to a year.
Has the game changed for the better? Great! Time to hop back in. Is it still not what you'd like it to be? Great, then you didn't miss out on anything.
I am gorging myself on Remnant 2 atm and I couldn't be happier.
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u/multiplemuffins 1d ago
Been playing a lot of Helldivers with the boys and Abiotic factor with the wife. Made this post after I was driving home and the Rhulk boss theme played on my spotify. It made me really miss the game as it was pre EOF :'(
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u/ledankestnoodle Vandal the Randal 1d ago
I get it man. I haven't touched Destiny since Rite of the Nine and have zero interest in ever coming back. And unlike in the past where I've """"quit""" I think I'm actually done for real.
They say it takes on average 7 attempts for someone to leave an abusive relationship, and I think I finally hit attempt number 7 for quitting Destiny, which let's be honest has had more lows than highs throughout the 11 years.
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u/NerdNarvesen 1d ago
Eh, the game is on a down swing right now, so the negatives are all too easy to see. I like the Portal as a way to deliver/organize content, and no doubt it'll improve over time, just hope it happens sooner rather than later.
I agree that the portal dropped unfinished, which is bad, but all we can do us either keep playing and hope it improves, or stop playing. AllI'm hoping for in Ash & Iron is that IB is good, and that Mecha returns. Till then I'm gonna play Hollow Knight, that shit is so good.
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u/d13w93 1d ago
I feel like I’m at a crossroads. I’m at level 200. I don’t mind engaging a bit more with the grind, even if that means working up to say 400. But I’m absolutely out if it is getting reset to 200 again in December. But I kind of want to know now if they are going to reverse that decision so I’m not really playing much at all. If they aren’t then I’ll just stop now (if that makes sense).
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u/rasjahho 1d ago edited 1d ago
It feels like they gutted the game with one update. I really don't like portal and the featured system at all. It doesn't feel like destiny. Most of the game is irrelevant all for a stupid menu to replace the director. It feels cheap and half baked. Now all the tower venders feel hollow.. Rising feels more complete than D2 does. We were on a good trajectory when Joe was in charge, now the whole philosophy of the game changed for the worst imo.