r/Documentaries Mar 17 '18

South Africa - A Reversed Apartheid? (2018) - A documentary shining light on the white boer minority's current situation living in SA. Crowdfunded and made by a swedish political science major from the The Swedish Defence University.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEDU0xIILKA
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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '18 edited Mar 19 '18

Why does this get associated with the far-right?

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '18

It's dishonest. It's the equivalent of me going into the Appalachian region of America and portraying them as being representative of the state of all white people in America and that they are all oppressed because Obama is the president and because America has affirmative action. It's just as dishonest as using a photo of dog attack victims and claiming they were victims of farm attacks.

The people behind the documentary are known neo Nazis and white supremacists who are part of the global white supremacist movement. They currently have a campaign going on targeting South Africa.

The people featured in the documentary are also known white supremacists and white separatists who choose to live separate) from other South Africans. Volksteun is a Front National project. They weren't forced to live the way they do and their ideology is still the same as what they had during Apartheid. There' a long list of far right white separatist and neo Nazi groups in South Africa that have been active since Apartheid: AWB, Front National, Die Suidlanders, Boere Beskermings Forum, Geloftevolk Republikeine, die Verkenners etc.

It's not an honest portrayal of either poverty in the white community or of poverty in South African in general.

In South Africa today uneducated whites still earn more than university educated blacks.

At top management level, 68.5% of positions are occupied by white South Africans which is more than six times their economically active population

Most whites in SA still earn 6 times more than blacks

Whites have the lowest unemployment of all racial groups, lower than most European countries.

White South African murders rate is at the European average and whites are 8.9 times less likely to be murdered than black people.

In 2016, 71 people were murdered on farms. This includes all people, irrespective of race, whether they owned the farms, were employed on the farms, or just passing through. It also includes smallholdings, which are mostly inhabited by black people and far more numerous than the large farms owned by white South Africans. 810,000 people in South Africa work on farms. Note that the vast majority of these people are black. That's a murder rate of 9.1 per 100,000. This is more than 3 times lower than the general murder rate of 34.4 per 100,000 - and we're not even talking about white farmers, we're talking about every single person who was killed on a farm.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-41807642

Dan Kriek, the president of Agri SA, the country's largest and most influential agricultural organisation, has debunked Afriforum's whitewashed statistics.

Crime doesn't recognise colour. For example, in the Free State we have had 58 farm attacks this year with four murders: two black and two white. We need to be honest about (crime) statistics and not only use it when it suits us.

The fake "white genocide" narrative relies on statistics from Afriforum that originate with the Transvaal Agricultural Union who don't split victims by race, yet right-wing news outlets take them and say that they were all white.

Just a few days ago a black-owned farm was attcked and burned down but the internet was abuzz with white genocide claims relating to it.

Farm murders of all races have been declining for the last 20 years and are half what they were 20 years ago.

I could go on but I think you get the point.

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u/DarkCrawler_901 Mar 18 '18

Finally an actually sourced, well-written post. I was about to do something similar myself, thanks for saving me the trouble. Not that any of that stops reddits' uninformed racists upvoting the dumb shit.

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u/0Fsgivin Mar 19 '18 edited Mar 20 '18

All his murder rate sources lead to dead links. You can lick on the article but all that articles sources are no where...takes me to facebook thats a good sign.

Secondly, his BBC article just states it can neither confirm nor deny the numbers or whites being killed.

His Dan Kriek article offers no sources or numbers either.

This guy got 1000 upvvotes and gilded twice for an absolute shit spin job himself.

White farmers are being targetted politically. And there are indeed leaders in the SA government making ominous messages about killing all whites in SA.

http://www.scmp.com/news/world/africa/article/2125721/violent-crime-against-white-south-african-farmers-threatens-reopen <-- "In 2012, President Jacob Zuma sang a struggle-era song containing the words “shoot the farmer, shoot the Boer”.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/economy/world-economy/the-time-for-reconciliation-is-over-south-africa-votes-to-confiscate-whiteowned-without-compensation/news-story/a8a81155995b1adc1c399d3576c4c0bc Mr Malema has been leading calls for land confiscation, forcing the ANC to follow suit out of fear of losing the support of poorer black voters. In 2016, he told supporters he was “not calling for the slaughter of white people‚ at least for now”.

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u/haexz Mar 20 '18

Why are you linking the same news article in your comment 3 times?

If you really want to know about the bill you're linking you should read your article, firstly this was the first time the bill has been brought up in parliament, it will take 1+ year plus to come into affect if it goes through as planned (it wont). Secondly this bill was suggested by the extreme leftist EFF party, they only poll around 6% of the vote, no-one really knows if the ANC will support this bill right to the very end because it is seem as extreme by people within the ANC. Lastly the bill would need to have a constitutional change in order to pass it, they are creating a committee to meet on this and will report back in August. This is extremely hard to do and is why many people think this bill will amount to nothing and is just being supported by the ANC to win over less radical EFF voters.

The quote from Zuma is useless because he is not in power anymore, he never supported the EFF when they called for this kind of thing before, him singing a apartheid era song says nothing...

And again your last quote is from the leader of the EFF party, they are small compared to the ANC and DA and have little influence in the day to day politics however the ANC have endorsed him on this particular issue.