r/Documentaries Mar 17 '18

South Africa - A Reversed Apartheid? (2018) - A documentary shining light on the white boer minority's current situation living in SA. Crowdfunded and made by a swedish political science major from the The Swedish Defence University.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEDU0xIILKA
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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '18 edited Mar 19 '18

Why does this get associated with the far-right?

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u/[deleted] Mar 18 '18

It's dishonest. It's the equivalent of me going into the Appalachian region of America and portraying them as being representative of the state of all white people in America and that they are all oppressed because Obama is the president and because America has affirmative action. It's just as dishonest as using a photo of dog attack victims and claiming they were victims of farm attacks.

The people behind the documentary are known neo Nazis and white supremacists who are part of the global white supremacist movement. They currently have a campaign going on targeting South Africa.

The people featured in the documentary are also known white supremacists and white separatists who choose to live separate) from other South Africans. Volksteun is a Front National project. They weren't forced to live the way they do and their ideology is still the same as what they had during Apartheid. There' a long list of far right white separatist and neo Nazi groups in South Africa that have been active since Apartheid: AWB, Front National, Die Suidlanders, Boere Beskermings Forum, Geloftevolk Republikeine, die Verkenners etc.

It's not an honest portrayal of either poverty in the white community or of poverty in South African in general.

In South Africa today uneducated whites still earn more than university educated blacks.

At top management level, 68.5% of positions are occupied by white South Africans which is more than six times their economically active population

Most whites in SA still earn 6 times more than blacks

Whites have the lowest unemployment of all racial groups, lower than most European countries.

White South African murders rate is at the European average and whites are 8.9 times less likely to be murdered than black people.

In 2016, 71 people were murdered on farms. This includes all people, irrespective of race, whether they owned the farms, were employed on the farms, or just passing through. It also includes smallholdings, which are mostly inhabited by black people and far more numerous than the large farms owned by white South Africans. 810,000 people in South Africa work on farms. Note that the vast majority of these people are black. That's a murder rate of 9.1 per 100,000. This is more than 3 times lower than the general murder rate of 34.4 per 100,000 - and we're not even talking about white farmers, we're talking about every single person who was killed on a farm.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-41807642

Dan Kriek, the president of Agri SA, the country's largest and most influential agricultural organisation, has debunked Afriforum's whitewashed statistics.

Crime doesn't recognise colour. For example, in the Free State we have had 58 farm attacks this year with four murders: two black and two white. We need to be honest about (crime) statistics and not only use it when it suits us.

The fake "white genocide" narrative relies on statistics from Afriforum that originate with the Transvaal Agricultural Union who don't split victims by race, yet right-wing news outlets take them and say that they were all white.

Just a few days ago a black-owned farm was attcked and burned down but the internet was abuzz with white genocide claims relating to it.

Farm murders of all races have been declining for the last 20 years and are half what they were 20 years ago.

I could go on but I think you get the point.

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u/IdiocracyIsProphecy Mar 18 '18

The fact you are spitting in the faces of these victims is... beyond sick.

Just discredit the obvious racially motivated attacks, because an admitted racist is pointing them out?

Look I hate that this guy put his name on this too. But it does not change the VERY real situation at hand.

I hope you grow a heart one day.

And the amount of support to completely stonewall this situation is... Frightening to be honest.

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u/lmac7 Mar 18 '18

The op you replied to provided a good amount of critical commentary with cited sources as to why the claims of the documentary were substantially false. Not just noting who made the claims. Care to dispute any of that directly? I doubt it.

But that is how you make an argument. Live and learn.

You on the other hand misrepresented the ops argument and simply reasserted that you believe there is a real problem of reverse apartheid and provided not a single source or argument. And slandered the op in the process. Its the intellectual equivalent of saying "is not" followed by an insult.

Quite frankly, that response is less than nothing. Cite some legitimate sources that you believe are compelling if you are going to insist that reverse apartheid is a thing. Otherwise I am gong to assume you are largely letting your uniformed bias dictate your views and are really just talking out of your ass.

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u/[deleted] Jul 28 '18

Someone has pointed out that it's articles with dead links and the BBC one didn't even fit his narrative. Also, they claim that Katie Hopkins and Lauren Southern are literal Nazis even though they've never advocated for anything close. Having right-wing politics and caring about white people does not make someone a descendant of Hitler. That's a huge red flag to start with in the comment especially since I've followed Lauren for a few years, listening back and forth to what the media says about her vs what she actually says and does, and guess what, the mainstream like to demonize her to no end and blow her ideologies to outrageous proportions. Also, Al Jazeera, one of the host of his links has targeted Lauren's works before to slander and accuse her and her group of something they didn't do; shooting flares onto rescue vessels searching for drowning refugees off the coast. SHE NEVER DID THAT NOR WAS SHE TARGETING SYRIAN REFUGEES IN EUROPE. Yet hundreds of people believed in the false news and claims that Lauren is some kind of murderer now. AJ already has a huge bias set on her. The whole comment was biased for making them look like villains despite knowing little or misinformations about them.