r/Dogfree • u/Maximum-End-7268 • 2d ago
Dog Culture friend exploded at me for choosing baby over dog
I was talking with my friend in class the other day, I mentioned I don’t like animals, especially dogs, and my friend (massive dog person) loudly gasped and immediately got aggressive about it. I also said I love kids, and she called me “weird” for that, for not liking dogs but liking kids.
Then she hits me with a “what if”: “If there’s a dog and a baby on a cliff, who would you save?” I literally laughed at first because I thought it was a joke. Nope, dead serious. So I said, “Uh obviously the baby?” And she laughed at me and LOUDLY raised her voice at me in class like I’d just said the worst thing in the world. Started again calling me “weird” and ranting about how her dogs are her “whole life and understand her.” and how she'd only save the baby if the dog was older and lived most of its life already (??).
Then she then shoved a picture of her 'cute' dog in my face (labradoodle)… and 😭 I straight up laughed.
we then talked about pitbull attacks etc and she was defending the pitbulls at all costs, so i told her i didn't want to continue this conversation if she was going to call me names etc and that i found what she was saying a bit disgusting.
Like sorry, I’m not gonna pretend a random mutt matters more than a literal child?? Still so baffled this turned into an argument, and i'm not wanting to sit with her anymore bc shes just plain rude to me?? Why is it controversial to not like animals?
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u/Vibe2Summer 2d ago
That is not a friend, if their mutt is the most important thing to them then that is the only thing they need to hang around with.
A true friend prioritizes you.
Also, I do not understand how those things are considered cute.
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u/YeahlDid 2d ago
It's not controversial, not in this case at least. 99 out of a hundred people are going to agree with you on the cliff thing. Acting like saving the dog is the normal and obvious choice is a sign of being mentally unwell.
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u/Old_Confidence3290 2d ago
I like kids. I hate dogs. I hate most dog owners too. Your "friend" isn't much of a friend.
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u/Net_Negative 2d ago
I don't like kids, and I don't like dogs, but I'd still rescue the human child, jesus christ.
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u/93ImagineBreaker 2d ago
I also said I love kids, and she called me “weird” for that, for not liking dogs but liking kids (humans)
You should ask how? We were all kids, and kids are part of are own species, we don't need dogs and they could go extinct with little issue.
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u/18FoSTBlueMnNB02 2d ago
Time to reevaluate that ‘friend’ and move on. And I say this as a person who has VERY few friends, sooo… 🤷🏻♂️
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u/ArthropodFromSpace 2d ago
Brood parasitism. These people REALLY think that way. Also be aware, that she will sacrifice you for a dog the first time she will have to make a choice. I woult reconsider if she is really a friend.
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u/One_Path_7154 1d ago
Yep, she will choose the dog over you if the situation arises. Happened to me with a long time friend. We had plans to get together after a long period of not seeing each other and she cancelled saying she was asked to babysit someone’s dog and chose the dog over me. Future isn’t looking too bright for this friendship as she is a low key dog nutter and is considering getting her own mutt. :/
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u/ToOpineIsFine 2d ago
people are so confused that they have forgotten what species they belong to
have you ever talked to her parents?
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u/Braelind 2d ago
She'd save a dog before she saved a baby? If I hadn't heard people say this shit myself, I'd have trouble believing you. Your "friend" needs to see a therapist, that's some scarily unhinged energy.
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u/TequilaStories 2d ago
It's absolutely unnatural to have more feelings towards a dog than to your actual kind and even dog people deep down know this. On an evolutionary level not up for debate, it's not optional or a lifestyle choice; prioritising and protecting children is how we survive as a species, it's part of our DNA.
Dog People recognise there's something wrong with them for not feeling this normal deep connection to humanity and feel uncomfortable and embarrassed, but instead of accepting something is off and seeking professional help for themselves, they double down and try and wack a mole reality by insisting dog worship is completely normal.
Trying to humiliate and embarrass you in public is a self preservation technique to try and justify and maintain delusional behaviour patterns in themselves. Trying to target you for pointing out facts because they don't want to accept reality, hoping to embarrass you into silence and submission. It's not you acting weird, it's them.
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u/ArthropodFromSpace 1d ago
It is somehow natural but of course not healthy. Cuckoo exploits the same mechanism in their host birds. It is literally mind controlling extended phenotype of brood parasite.
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u/Tarasaurus-13 2d ago
Her cliff question response is so weird. As someone who doesn't particularly like being around kids, I will 💯 save a baby over a mutt. Like wtf. That's a human being with a whole personality and whole life ahead of it to develop! These people are so fucking weird.
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u/MissionSafe9012 1d ago
Good on you for having common sense, which appears to be not so common these days.
I kind of feel sorry for people like your classmate. These are very sad, lonely people that have nothing but dogs in their life. They live for their dogs, they die for their dogs, when one dog dies they lose their shit but then purchase another dog immediately. They claim dogs are better than people, but it’s just a way for them to cope with the fact that they are not a good friend.
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u/Nikkidemas 2d ago edited 2d ago
I think many (most?) of these people have been hurt by people, and that's why they choose dogs. From their perspective, it doesn't matter that dogs aren't CAPABLE of higher-level thinking like humans are; it's simply dogs>humans because they don't emotionally damage people. They don't have political opinions; they don't knowingly harm the planet. BUT, dogs also aren't capable of poetry or space travel or cooking a meal - and none of that matters to them, because a dog provides companionship and doesn't hurt them the way humans did.
It's a very simplistic and self-affirming way of thinking. Humans=bad, dogs=good. I wish these folks would get therapy, because I think a lot of the issues they have with dogs actually stems from their issues with fellow human beings & their inability to interact with them.
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u/RisingApe- 1d ago
Every dog attack victim is emotionally damaged by dogs. Dog nutters just don’t even consider that, because they think every dog who attacks was provoked into doing so.
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u/CapeMama819 2d ago
Most of the dog people I know would still choose a baby over a dog on that situation. Damn.
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u/OphthalmicMigraine 1d ago
Don't ever go on a walk with her and her dog (especially if there's a cliff around :)). You know who she would save if it came down to a choice between you and the dog.
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u/mission_tiefsee 1d ago
Maybe walk away. This sounds like a unhealthy relationship. Guess she chooses her dog over you too then. Hope you don't end up on a cliff.
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u/Honest_Disk_8310 1d ago
The word projection gets overused these days.
But this "friend" of yours earned it fair and square
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u/Beautifly 1d ago
That’s actual insanity. Did anyone else chime in? I know people are ridiculous when it comes to dogs, but actually valuing a dog’s life over a human’s is VERY weird, even for dog nutters
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u/Cuaternume 1d ago
Next time reframe the situation between her on a cliff vs her dog. Then choose her dog to save.
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u/Legitimate_Garage_31 1d ago
This was in CLASS?! Was it college? Did she disrupt the class? Was the teacher there? What class was it? Holy smokes these people have turned into POD People!
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u/Maximum-End-7268 1d ago
high school and this whole convo infront of my class was giving me the ick 😭
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u/ElleGeeAitch 1d ago
People like her are unhinged. Idgaf, people who value animals over human life to this extent are sociopaths in my book.
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u/QueenOfAllOfYall 1d ago
Just don’t bother wasting anymore time on her. There’s no reasoning with people who think dogs are more important than Humans, especially Kids. And that’s a disgusting outlook to have, anyway. She’s not worth Your Time.
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u/huntress_m_thompson 1d ago
these people will each be single-handedly devolving humanity. freakin’ mind virus. find the cure … STAT!!!
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u/Straight_Rabbit_3542 1d ago
Tell your friend to read up on the Oxytocin Paradox and how her dogs have hijacked her Oxytocin system.
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u/Charlotte_Martel77 1d ago
Are you SURE that you want this person as a friend? It sounds like she is completely unhinged. The only "weird" thing is how we became the only species which values the kidnapped offspring of inferior species aka pets over our own children.
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u/Gullible-Daikon-4695 20h ago
Right... like raising her voice like that. I would get up and never look in her direction again atp
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u/sierranotserena 1d ago
I don't like dogs either, but i absolutely love animals. Either way, if there's an animal and a human, regardless of age, im saving the human. I couldn't live with that guilt. I feel like in the moment, your friend would 100% save the baby, but i may be giving her too much benefit of the doubt.
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u/Turbulent-Dentist-77 18h ago
It's mass brainwashing being done on purpose. The reasons why are obvious. It is one element of a whole umbrella of strategies to stop people from breeding.
Equating animals to human life is immoral.
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u/4-ton-mantis 1d ago
There's polarization between dogs and kids and both camps are as tenacious and then there is my camp, birds. I don't care about dogs nor kids. No offense
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u/Professional-Bee9037 1d ago
Well, I kind of look at it this week. Those are people who do not need children because they would raise their children like they do their dogs.
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u/Gullible-Daikon-4695 20h ago
People like that are delusional and exhausting - I cant do it anymore. Hopefully her dogs will pull up for her whenever she needs anything serious.
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u/rainsonme 5h ago
Mutts matter THE LEAST. There's an apocalyptic flood and you can save all animals on earth? Yeah, still won't save dogs
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u/ArthropodFromSpace 2d ago
I have met people who use this value system. It is hard to believe untill you meet them personally.
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u/lovely_loda 1d ago
If it was their dog vs some baby, then nuttery is what I considered extreme. But the thing its 'a' baby vs 'a' dog. which is any baby vs any dog basically. This is next nuttery is just plain insanity. It could mean the brood parasite theory is holding . damn
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u/Maximum-End-7268 1d ago
haha it sure happened we are high school seniors and i was even still very surprised
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u/black_truffle_cheese 2d ago
It is controversial because dogs feed narcissism. Dogs are all over people as long as there is food. You basically do the least amount of effort to get them to be your “friend”. Even most other animals require you to slowly build up trust. Humans too. That requires a lot of work and thinking about the other that your average narcissist isn’t willing to deal with.
You basically attacked this woman’s narcissistic supply, the one thing that makes her feel like a valid human, so of course she was going to attack you for not thinking like her.
As for why so many people are like this, there is a good book from 15 years ago called “the Narcissism Epidemic”. I am convinced there is a strong link between narcissism and dog nuttery - and I mean nuttery. I know a few dog owners that still treat their pets as the animals they are, this is not who I am talking about. They lack the entitlement of true dog nutters.