r/EUnews • u/GreenEyeOfADemon • 14d ago

UKRAINE 🇺🇦 russian FM Lavrov declares Ukraine can “exist” only if It surrenders on russian terms

https://united24media.com/latest-news/russian-fm-lavrov-declares-ukraine-can-exist-only-if-it-surrenders-on-russian-terms-11032
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u/trisul-108 14d ago

I think it is useful to hear him say it loud and clear, so that people will stop pretending the possibility of a just peace ever existing before Russia is defeated on the battlefield.

We saw J.D.Vance say that WWII "ended with negotiations" ... well, if so, that is the sort of "negotiations" that are necessary with Russia, first defeat them, kick them out of Ukraine ... and then we can negotiate a just and lasting peace agreement.

Alternatively, we need to let Russia have the Ukraine, Baltics, more parts of Finland, Moldova and whatever part of the EU they choose and then proceed from there. How much would that cost us?

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u/GreenEyeOfADemon 14d ago

J.D.Vance say that WWII "ended with negotiations" 

Small details missing in his statement: Hitler committed suicide, Mussolini was executed and both Germany and Japan surrendered, leaving no room for negotiations.

How much would that cost us?

Exactly: if we let russia win in Ukraine, we will be responsible for a chain reaction of biblical events.

russia is our enemy, plain and simple, not only to Ukraine, but for all of Europe.

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u/Fred_Milkereit 11d ago

they are as horrible as stalin and have to be dealt with accordingly