r/ElectricUnicycle • u/JoltatoPEV25 • 5d ago

Panther or Oryx

Ive got some money saved up now. And ive been looking a lot into both the Begode Panther and the Leaperkim Oryx(with not much as theyre both pretty new) and im having a hard time deciding. I hear the Oryx has a better battery but the vibe of the Panther with the lights and speakers feels a lot cooler. For anyone that has maybe gotten early access, can you compare and say how much better one is over the other? Cause if the build quality or the range is better enough, ill get the oryx but if its not much of a difference then the Panther.

Id appreciate any ones help! Ride safe🤙

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u/aurath 5d ago

I trust Leaperkim builds way more.

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u/Positive_Mulberry_35 Sherman L,T4pro, v13,ks16s 5d ago

Leaperkim all the way

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u/Brutal-Force 5d ago

I have the Panther. I haven't ridden it because of a broken ankle at the end of May. It really is huge. If the Oryx is bigger then I would say be prepared for some weight. It is built well despite what many are saying. Since I can't ride right now, I am doing some 3D scanning of it.

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u/Ok-Letterhead914 5d ago

Please tell me this isn't your first wheel

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u/JoltatoPEV25 5d ago

Go big or go home👀

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u/aurath 5d ago

Bro for real don't start with a wheel like this. Learning on a wheel that big is just gonna be a bad time, take way longer, and be way way more dangerous. Spend $500-$1000 on a small used wheel for learning, then you can keep it around for casual screwing around with or hassling your friends to learn.

There's also a decent chance you better understand what you'll actually need better after you've learned. These heavy wheels are relatively niche for a reason, they're extremely specialized and enjoyable rideability just isn't one of their priorities.

Are you aware you can get a fast-charger that supports EV vehicle charging stations at higher charge rates? A Sherman or even Lynx would be much more enjoyable and practical day-to-day, and can still get ~80% in roughly an hour. And you'll welcome the break to stretch your legs and eat—trust me. Then you can ride for another full charge.

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u/JoltatoPEV25 5d ago

Yeah, I guess that makes sense lol. I appreciate the feedback, ill look into it

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u/Ok-Letterhead914 5d ago

Personally I don't care what you start with. As long as you know it's going to be a royal b****.

I started big (blitz )but your starting 40lbs heavier than my big and I wouldnt want to do that. Plus after starting with a heavy wheel I now want a light wheel like The aero or Patton s ideally some monster mix in between that has the power of the patton s and the weight of the aero.

Thinking you're going to go 50 mph in the first 6 months (ideally more) is asking for broken bones.

If you saved 4.5-5k once you can do it again after buying a more fun wheel. Don't get me wrong I love my Sherman l but seriously I really want my L along with a lighter wheel

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u/JoltatoPEV25 5d ago

I dont plan on the 50 mph for a while. Im just enticed by the range. Id be able to use that instead of a car for Utah trips lmao

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u/Caucasian_Fury 5d ago

It's not impossible to learn on a big wheel but you're just steepening your own learning curve and making things more difficult unnecessarily.

Panther and Oryx are 22 inch wheels, and they're both massive and heavy. Even experienced riders will need quite an adjustment period to ride them comfortably, big wheels like that are mean for straight line cruising, they're terrible and tremedously difficult and not fun to ride at low, low speeds, speeds that you're going to be learning on.

You're many months away from the muscle memory and physical conditioning you need to develop to take advantage of all that range and power.

If you insists then you insist. But picture having never driven a car before and trying to learn how to drive on a Dodge Viper (one of the more notoriously difficult cars to drive).

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u/Killbot_Wants_Hug 4d ago

I really wonder if there's anybody with a success story of learning on a 100lb wheel.

I remember somebody was talking about how they bought something like a master pro for their first wheel. Because they wanted the biggest and baddest thing and that's what they've always done. But they said they regretted it and ended up just getting rid of the wheel.

When you're starting out you have to hold that wheel up with your legs a ton because you don't have the balance. Too heavy 100lb wheels are just going to make that so hard. Once you've got the balance it's not as much work, but you only get the balance with practice. And the practice on such a heavy wheel is going to be painful.

This isn't like learning to ride an eskate or scooter and starting with a big one, where things can get away from you if you aren't careful. It's more like learning to lift weights and starting with a 100lb dumbbell.

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u/Caucasian_Fury 4d ago

Of course, I know people who learned on 100+ lb wheels but they dropped it alot, janked it a bit before they wrapped it in foam.

I will say, everyone I know who learned on 100+ lb wheels all decided afterwards that they would've done better learning on a lighter wheel to start with.

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u/Ok-Letterhead914 5d ago

So you're getting a high speed long range wheel with little intention on going high speed? Why not get the L and save yourself 20lbs

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u/JoltatoPEV25 5d ago

For now at least. It's what I did when I got my eboard. At the time, the Backfire hammer was one of the heaviest eboards and was largely advised against getting it. But I wanna have the speed there so when I do get used to it, I have that head cap to grow instead of buying it later on. And yeah, all the videos are saying it's gonna be a larger learning curve but im used to it lol

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u/avatarKuza 4d ago edited 2d ago

That’s what I’ve been wanting as well. I just posted about this mix of EUCs in my recent posts: “dream euc.”

I would like the weight of a aero and the power and range of a Patton S.

So, something like a 60-70 lbs 18” wheel with a top speed of 45mph or 50mph, to cruise at city speeds of 30-40mph comfortably. Be able to do 25mi of range in those speeds.

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u/Ok-Letterhead914 4d ago

I'd like it with 100mm (or more) suspension fork style coil oil for skateparks jump parks but yeah basically the same spec high pedals as well

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u/CruisingClay 2d ago

You just described the rocket

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u/Ok-Letterhead914 2d ago

Sorry let me finish, LeaperKim build quality 👍

Edit. Also the rocket has low pedals

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u/CruisingClay 2d ago

The pedals are adjustable, the high position has plenty of clearance. I will definitely agree with you on the build quality thing though, while I do feel the rocket is built very well I don't think they used loctite on a single bolt on this damn thing 😂

I love it though, it's a fantastic addition to my stable with my Sherman L. The L is my fav but the rocket is so much more zippy and nimble.

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u/CruisingClay 2d ago

You're describing the rocket and it is glorious.

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u/avatarKuza 2d ago

Dam. Should I get the rocket then?? Should I wait another year and see what comes out? I think the rocket is a 15” wheel in reality which seems sketchy

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u/CruisingClay 2d ago

It's my favorite wheel I've ridden, aside from the range. but I go fast so I eat through battery. I haven't had wobble issues at all but I'm experienced at preventing them and my pad setup is very locked in.

It really is the perfect short trip city wheel though. And it rips through off-road trails with the knobby tire

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u/JoltatoPEV25 5d ago

But I appreciate the advice 🤙

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u/Killbot_Wants_Hug 4d ago

Yeah you say that until you send a 100lb wheel flying into something and then you've got to fix that and you might be out of a $4000 wheel as well.

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u/StevenSafakDotCom 5d ago

You're going to completely smash up a 4k machine, that's the difference from esk8 😭💚 I don't doubt you can learn on it but man, enjoy that 🤣👍

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u/SquallLHeart EXN/Master/V13 5d ago

my take on LK vs Begode..

LK caters to what I would say are 90% of the riders in the market.. the practical, casual, and everyday kind of rider that just wants something that mostly works (LK fans are stubborn when things actually go wrong with their favorite brand and will continue to spout how reliable and high quality they are)

for the 10% of riders that desire something more.. that added performance, speed, and ride feel that is simply difficult to beat.. Begode offers that.

if this is your first wheel.. then well.. I can't recommend one wheel over the other based on your planned riding style, terrain, or use case.. how am I supposed to know you might fit in that 10% or not? just simply based on your responses so far.. you're probably part of the 90% instead.. but in either case, a big wheel is a big commitment.

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u/wheelienonstop7 5d ago

I do remember a review by one of the big youtube EUC celebrities (Marty Backe or Zen Lee or somebody like that) who said that the Panther and the Oryx would only be competing with each other if the Panther was at least $500 cheaper.

And yeah, please dont get either of those as your first wheel. If you really get into the hobby you will soon want to get a second, lighter and more nimble wheel anyway.

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u/jet420000 5d ago

I love my panther

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u/JoltatoPEV25 5d ago

Could you tell me more about it? Pros, cons, things you'd change, any other things are really helpful, thank you

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u/jet420000 5d ago

Yeah, if you have short stubby fingers, this is not the wheel for you lmao the power button is a little bit tough to reach.

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u/Ok-Letterhead914 5d ago

He preordered before the oryx was announced and it took a year to be released. that's the pros

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u/GoldKanet 3d ago

I wouldn't go heavier than 75lbs for a first wheel, ideally 50, but if you're gonna go ham, wait for a teardown vid. The internal quality is not initially obvious, there was an oryx in NYC that took a fall during the demo, very little visual damage, died. Sample sizes are so low right now we truly can't tell. 

...If you're gonna go this big get the P6

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u/Ok-Letterhead914 5d ago

Looks like you have a business fixing pevs? At least youll be ready when the panther continuously falls apart squeaks grinds and grunts. Or you can get the oryx and not worry about things falling apart 🤷‍♂️

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u/JoltatoPEV25 5d ago

Is it really that bad? Whats been your experience?

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u/Ok-Letterhead914 5d ago

Is it really that bad? I don't know. Call me a troll but my Blitz was a mess. it was a first batch (just like you) and I fixed over one hundred dollars of broken plastics that were poorly designed and even more trying to get the suspension right. And after all that the L does almost everything better I said almost because it's 25 lb more and I haven't had to touch it after 1200miles. Seriously LeaperKim is that much better.

Last bit I never crashed my Blitz above 5mph it just couldn't withstand a tumble

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u/GoldKanet 3d ago

Wait a month perhaps and get the P6? 

A 93mph (not freespin) wheel is something I shouldn't have and do want. 

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u/Own-Reflection-8182 5d ago

Have you considered Begode Race? It’s at a discount right now.

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u/JoltatoPEV25 5d ago

Its the range im looking for. But yea the Race is high up on the waiting list⚡️

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u/Own-Reflection-8182 5d ago

Since they have 50s batteries, they’re similar in the real world range of larger but older 50e batteries.

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u/Ok-Letterhead914 5d ago

Eskate is easy. Sorry not sorry

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u/JoltatoPEV25 5d ago

It really is but going from a normal longboard to a 40-pound ATV board with a max speed of 32 at 16 years old was quite a bit. A lot of my longboard friends couldn't quite grasp it as quickly. But yea, thats why im going to an EUC, a level up if you will

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u/Ok-Letterhead914 5d ago edited 5d ago

Your not the only one that went from eskate to euc. It's not the same I started eskate with no experience and went on a lighter shorter board you basically started on easy mode with a longer more capable board. Example mepo mini