r/EmergencyManagement • u/CommanderAze Federal • Jan 23 '25

News Trump claims FEMA is getting ‘in the way’ and pitches abolishing it

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-fema-sean-hannity-interview-b2684711.html
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u/HokieFireman Jan 23 '25

Basically socialism but because he is the one describing it! They will love it

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u/Microchipknowsbest Jan 23 '25

He wants to have control of the money directly to give direct favors and have people grovel to him for money the trump emergency funds can pay for it.

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u/two_awesome_dogs Jan 23 '25

And so they can owe him in return. Like a damn feudal lord.

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u/VanX2Blade Jan 26 '25

Literally yes. The man was not beaten by his peers enough as a child.

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u/neon_nightmare85 Jan 27 '25

They way he acts and talks he has never been punched in the damn mouth.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '25

Maynard Keenan has the Remedy https://youtu.be/HivxFBB87-Y?si=eM9TF6qbd-giOXC0

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u/two_awesome_dogs Jan 26 '25

Yep, not nearly enough. He was the bully and would do it to other kids.

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u/houstonhinzel Jan 26 '25

Pffffft there is literally no chance he actually got physical against other males that stood up to him in any sense. He ran to daddy to cry then was beaten by his daddy for being a weak piece of shit.

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u/two_awesome_dogs Jan 26 '25

He was nasty.

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u/CousinEddie77 Jan 24 '25

Get ready for some big cleanup bills!

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u/Ashamed-Fig-4680 Jan 25 '25

The cleanup bills are already quite monumental.

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u/Lotsa_Loads Jan 24 '25

This. If you kiss the ring you get the money. If you don't, well tough shit. I'm not down with that, even if it hurt stupid assholes. This is fascist.

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u/No-Shine-6897 Jan 25 '25

It's always been this way; only difference is trump does it in plain sight versus behind closed doors.

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u/LesnBOS Jan 25 '25

And he’ll deny blue states. However, if he wants to be truly useful, he’d abolish the govt insurance for floods. If someone builds in a flood zone that’s their problem. Further, the blue states pay for FEMA which the red states use- it’s welfare

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u/Junior_Chard9981 Jan 25 '25

Bingo!

Somebody has pitched the idea to Trump that he can strong-arm states and governors who aren't loyal to him by withholding aid when a disaster occurs unless he gets concessions or handshake agreements from them first.

The thing he literally got impeached over during his first term (withholding congressionally approved aid in return for something) is what he is openly discussing wanting to do to CA and MAGA is cheering him on.

I'll never forgive Republicans for bringing Fascism to America.

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u/LesnBOS Jan 30 '25

Me neither. Or Democrats for being complicit the entire way.

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u/West_Perspective_891 Jan 26 '25

Ok well it's here, we gotta take action. He needs to be removed by any means and we need to prevent this from happening again.

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u/Educational-Bet-8979 Jan 25 '25

I’m not sure he knows what he wants. In NC FEMA was going to be overhauled and he was going to have them take care of everything. In California he’s getting rid of FEMA and leaving it to the states to take care of it because the states should be able to take care of their own.

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u/Gloomy_Yoghurt_2836 Jan 25 '25

He helps states thar voted for him.and punishes those that didn't. It send the message to support him.or get nothing for your tax dollars.

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u/WisePotatoChip Jan 27 '25

California should withhold the payment of any federal funds until he gets his head out of his ass.

Basically, never - cut out the middleman and use the tax money yourself send him receipts.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '25

Might as well just cut out the fed, and CA can thrive as the 4th largest economy in the world.

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u/WisePotatoChip Jan 28 '25 edited Jan 28 '25

Hell, yeah, I’d be willing to move back to help. there was some talk we could join Canada… or maybe even Mexico. Throw in Washington and Oregon and we could become the CanAMex economic zone.

Edit: CanAMexit 👍

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u/HokieFireman Jan 23 '25

They are going to cut SAFER and COPS grants too. Then blame local agencies.

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u/[deleted] Jan 27 '25

enter federal secret police who take orders from 1 person only

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u/Dear-Discussion6436 Jan 24 '25

And he can turn them down if they aren’t a loyalist. He is monopolizing California to gain support.

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u/Repubs_suck Jan 26 '25

This ⬆️

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u/DrMisery Jan 26 '25

He wants to be able to say the blues don’t deserve what the red gets. And if you want money you have to convert to red.

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u/Meodrome Jan 28 '25

Like he's trying to do to California with the wild fires.

"It's not Climate Change years of drought and high winds, it's the State is not managing Federal Lands properly, which had nothing to do with the LA fire, that caused this catastrophe. So, we need you to change your election laws so we can give you federal aid."

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u/Cultural-Wall-1603 Jan 24 '25

The president is the one who approves declaration requests. Doe he know he already signs the approval and the checks. And if he gets rid of FEMA then everyone will complain about … him?

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u/Little-Resolution-82 Jan 25 '25

Yeah this is it all he wants is for all money to flow through him and he decides who and who doesn't get help

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u/fridder Jan 26 '25

he probably wants them paid in trump coins

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u/Opposite-Invite-3543 Jan 27 '25

Exactly. Kiss the ring, you get help.

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u/[deleted] Jan 28 '25

Imagine getting denied disaster relief because your address was associated with a democratic ballot…

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u/LesnBOS Jan 30 '25

Yep. Which is why I would just rather he abolish it. It primarily goes to states who do not have savings bc they have always been kleptocracies, and shocker, do not regulate land usage.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '25

No, that was the Biden. It is well documented that FEMA people were told to skip any house with a Trump sign.

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u/Brilliant-Aide9245 Jan 24 '25

That wasn't Biden saying that. And the person that said it, said it because trumpets were listening to conspiracy theories and attacking the FEMA people

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u/Admonish Jan 26 '25

And that person was found and fired by FEMA. We found out about it because FEMA was the one who came out and said "hey guys, we found this person doing this fucked up thing. If you were skipped let us know and we got you." It wasn't found through some external investigation, FEMA just did a good job policing themselves.

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u/[deleted] Jan 24 '25

There has been no reports that I have seen about Trump supporters attacking FEMA. If they did I am sure the main stream media would have reported it. But the woman who lost her job for telling her workers to skip Trump houses said in several interviews that that was FEMA policy to skip homes with Trump signs. And since Biden is the head of the administration, so as the head he takes responsibility. If it was reverse and it was Trump I am sure they would be calling to impeach him over it

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u/Cultural-Wall-1603 Jan 25 '25

There were direct threats on the employees in the field, to offices, fema responders were threatened by people flashing weapons, militia, lots of rumor mongering and hate flying. Not saying it’s right but it’s possible people didn’t feel safe.

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u/Defiant-Design-4899 Jan 25 '25

There were literally armed maggots in trucks hunting down FEMA folks, while trump and his ilk were screeching "they are coming to steal your house! Don't sign any papers!"

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

🤣 of course there where. The maggots are the ones who decided to skip people because of a sign in their yard. I hope Trump returns the favor

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u/grandav Jan 26 '25

Why don't you volunteer to work with Fema and find out first hand. Being on the ground might give you a new perspective.

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u/Defiant-Design-4899 Jan 25 '25

Again, they didn't skip anyone because of a sign in their yard, though given the maggot mentality, I wouldn't blame them if they had.

The agency told them to go home because the maggots were trying to hunt them down

Do you think a truck full of armed cosplayers, wearing Nazi and Confederate gear and screeching about "guvment stealin' yer home" were doing that to lend them a helping hand?

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

Yes, they did skip people. The supervisor at FEMA confirmed that and people were fired. The supervisor who was fired said she skipped houses with Trump signs according to FEMA regulation on NBC and CBS interviews. You are pushing a false narrative, disinformation. You are a liar and it's because of people like you kamala lost. Thank you

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u/LesnBOS Jan 30 '25

No one says she didn’t say for them to skip people, we are telling you WHY she said to skip people. And that reason is valid- if millions of people are in crisis there is no time to deal with anyone threatening or difficult. Keep running and go on to the next person who needs help.

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u/Buffalo-Trace Jan 25 '25

Here’s one from Hurricane Helene.

from Fox News

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

Oh, that site you call fake news. 🤣 I love the hypocrisy

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '25

Who cares “what you’ve seen”? Even if you had seen a report you’d just fucking deny it anyway. There were TONS of reports and some arrests of Trumpers threatening FEMA. I loathe you people.

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '25

🤣, oh no, the fascious nazi loathes me. What will I do? Go join in on one of your anti jew protests.

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u/No-Cat9412 Jan 26 '25

If it was FEMA policy, why'd she lose her job? You got any other confirmation on this or are you taking the word of a disgruntled fired employee because it's what you want to be true?

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u/Fit-Magician6695 Jan 25 '25

That wasn’t Biden. That was a local official.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

Reverse the situation and say Trump was the president when this happened. Would you say Trump had nothing to do with it? I bet not

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u/Fit-Magician6695 Jan 25 '25

Learn to read. This was a local official. Republicans are douchebags no matter who is president.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

And democrats are sheeple, enjhoy your cult. People like you are why Trump is back in the White House. Thank you

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '25

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u/Fun-Outcome8122 Jan 25 '25

Would you say Trump had nothing to do with it? I bet not

Of course, because Trump is a different person from Biden, Obama, Bush, etc...

your logic is like saying that because Trump stole people's money with Trump University, then we should assume that everybody has stolen people's money with the Everybody University!

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

So then your a hypocrit. You are trying to deflect with a strawman argument.

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u/Fun-Outcome8122 Jan 25 '25

So then your a hypocrit.

Why? For not assuming that just because Trump is a con man, that means that you and everyone else are a con man, as well?!

You are trying to deflect

Correct, I'm deflecting from your deflection lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

🤣, sounds like your just babbling now. Why don't you go to your safe place for a little bit You will feel better

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u/Fun-Outcome8122 Jan 25 '25

Why don't you go to your safe place for a little bit You will feel better

Why should I come to your place to feel better?!

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u/[deleted] Jan 26 '25

O ly con men in DC have D in front of their names

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u/No-Shine-6897 Jan 25 '25

WOW, that's super messed up!!!

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u/Krom2040 Jan 25 '25

If it’s well-documented, then you won’t mind providing documentation?

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

Iknow your a little low on the IQ scale, but I think k you can manage to use Google. Anything present you won't believe, you will call it fake news or something. So do your own research. Give Google a try, it's pretty easy. I have faith in you, you can do it

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u/Krom2040 Jan 25 '25

Okay, so insults and projection instead of documentation, that checks out.

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u/txwildflower21 Jan 26 '25

It is not documented because that never happened. It’s tbag sowing chaos!

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u/astern126349 Jan 26 '25

They had guns and FEMA personnel was unsafe.

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u/WisePotatoChip Jan 27 '25

I call bullshit

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u/Useful-Rub1472 Jan 23 '25

Socialism would actually be rational and prohibit them from rebuilding in the same spot again and again. Examples would be Canada and New Zealand.

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u/Barrack64 Jan 23 '25

You have hit on the federal regulations for building homes Trump is talking about. Instead of being destroyed ever 10-15 years they’ll be destroyed every 3-5 years.

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u/Coherent_Tangent Jan 24 '25

But hey, it will be cheaper to rebuild in the short term without those pesky regulations that make buildings safe.

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

Nah; they’ll be easier for wealthy investors to step in and buy out homeowners for pennies on the dollar, then raze the site and build some sort of resort or hotel or McMansion which nets them hundreds of thousands of dollars of profit.

Rinse, lather, repeat. Until the middle/lower classes don’t own shit.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '25

Neither of those countries are socialist

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u/Useful-Rub1472 Jan 23 '25

I hate to tell you as a Canadian, socialist ideology allows us to be fundamentally different than the US. This goes for New Zealand as well. I spent a couple of months doing research related to the Christchurch quakes and taking away peoples land and ability to build where they want is rooted in socialism. This is not to be confused with communism or a socialist state. The government can and will step in and tell people they can no longer live where they want to if and when required.

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u/[deleted] Jan 23 '25

I hate to tell you as a Canadian, socialist ideology allows us to be fundamentally different than the US. 

This is a hilarious assertion on every level

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u/Standard-Nebula1204 Jan 24 '25

the government can and will step in

This is just called ‘a state.’ It isn’t socialism in absolutely any sense. It has quite literally nothing to do with socialism.

Socialism isn’t whenever a government does something

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u/iamtrollingyouu Jan 24 '25

Leftists not understanding socialism as an economic principle is like rightists not understanding communism as an economic principle.

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u/Saira652 Jan 24 '25

These people don't think the US has imminent domain or building codes XD

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u/[deleted] Jan 25 '25

In the states, that’s called “eminent domain.”

The government can take any private citizens land/residence as long as the owner is compensated. And there’s not really shit anyone can do about it except hire a lawyer — if the owner can even afford it.

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u/Standard-Nebula1204 Jan 24 '25

…do you actually think Canada and New Zealand are ‘socialist?’

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u/demagogueffxiv Jan 24 '25

Or we could put up preventative infrastructure to deter large scale disasters from reoccurring.

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u/chris14020 Jan 27 '25

Oh? Tell me how you're preventing the California situation, or the southern hurricanes. This will be neat to see how you're going to prevent nature and climate. 

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u/demagogueffxiv Jan 27 '25

Well, I am not that type of Engineer - but I know there are things like flood barriers and levis to reduce hurricane flooding, and there are ways to design fire breaks that slow the spread of fire. Maybe adjust the building materials we use on houses, etc.

We can make changes - but that investment probably isn't going to happen because it costs money now as opposed to rolling the dice on a disaster happening later.

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u/chris14020 Jan 27 '25

They already incorporate many of these ideas, but like you said - they cost money and are only able to slow / lessen effects, not prevent or stop them - especially in these areas. Plus, the dumbashell "TyRaNny!" crowd would have a fit about having to pay for precautions, rabble rabble free market rabble rabble muh freedoms. 

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u/demagogueffxiv Jan 27 '25

Well, half the country thinks climate change isn't real and now they want to disband FEMA, so I have pretty much lost all faith in our government's ability to do anything at this point.

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u/chris14020 Jan 27 '25

Basically yeah. Any time they try to do anything productive these idiots won't let them, and then when the idiots get control they just do whatever without concern for "what people think". Democrats gotta start growing a pair and stop playing meek. 

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u/amitym Jan 27 '25

No, not socialism at all.

He wants to control exactly who gets access to emergency funds based on personal favors.

Socialized disaster recovery works well. What Trump wants is a system that doesn't work. That is precisely his goal.

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u/AmarantaRWS Jan 23 '25

That's really not socialism though...

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u/HokieFireman Jan 23 '25

The government just rebuilding homes it’s on the left bell curve of socialism and communism.

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u/sectilius Jan 25 '25

It's not socialism, it's Freedom Bucks. That's automatically better, cause it's got freedom in the name.

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u/Awildenchilada Jan 25 '25

I mean, I see where you’re coming from but at the end of the day, innocent and hardworking homeowners should not have to fork out hundreds of thousands of dollars to rebuild their home. They can’t control nature 🤷‍♂️

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u/eatmywetfarts Jan 26 '25

It’s kind of like some sort of National Socialism

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u/viva-las-penis Jan 26 '25

Basically socialism but because he is the one describing it, you will hate it.

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u/HokieFireman Jan 26 '25

I don’t want the Feds trying to fund that. You know how fast that would triple the national debt?