r/FallOutBoy H. Shoe Crab Jul 02 '25

General Discussion What's a fob opinion you have that would result in this?

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u/JadeStew Take This To Your Grave Jul 02 '25

They absolutely need to fire whoever is designing their merch these days. It’s all so fucking ugly. I went to When We Were Young last year and didn’t buy any of their merch because I couldn’t justify the cost. I knew I wouldn’t wear any of it. Even their stuff on their website is hideous.

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u/hollow-knight-trash Folie à Deux Jul 03 '25

YES oh my goodness. I’ve been buying fanmade merch and making my own because goodness gracious. Look, it’s not like they need the money anyways.

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u/birthdaycheesecake9 Folie à Deux Jul 02 '25

I’m Australian and the last time they were here was in December 2023 (where they had shows only at a music festival), and the shirt I have from that has a surfing Santa on it… I feel silly wearing it outside of Christmas.

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u/ImpressionFun960 Jul 06 '25

I still can't talk about Good Things without getting extremely upset [paid $220+ to go to the festival because they had no solo shows and then like 2 songs in we all got evacuated because of a storm front 😭] Pretty happy I got their merch tee tho, it's the SMFS one with a UFO and it glows in the dark 🛸

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u/birthdaycheesecake9 Folie à Deux Jul 06 '25

I got downvoted in the triple J subreddit for saying I was curious about how GTF was going to salvage their reputation after the events of Sydney, because I was there too. I had to show an RSA marshall my autism report because they asked me to prove I was autistic and not drunk or something idk. And then the disaster that was the evacuation and poor communication afterwards… lord.

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u/hollyfred76 Jul 03 '25

Finally! Someone has said it !

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u/Diligent-Lab375 Jul 02 '25

TTTYG is criminally underrated (I'm not on this subreddit too much, so please inform my if the contrary is true). I know some lyrics haven't aged particularly well, but it's, in my opinion, there catchiest album

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u/-SlowBar Jul 02 '25

Easily. I think it's the best pop punk album ever made.

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u/YeetingNoodle Folie à Deux Jul 03 '25

it’s one of my favorites but I’m a massive all time low guy so nothing personal from them is my personal favorite pop punk album ever.

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u/-SlowBar Jul 03 '25

Great pick

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u/awkward_forks Jul 03 '25

agreeeeee with all this beautifulness

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u/asquared98 Sunshine Riptide Apologist Jul 02 '25

As a black fan, I’ve always noticed how weird and microagressive this fanbase gets when discussing the band’s hip hop collabs…

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u/witchycommunism Folie à Deux Jul 02 '25

You're right. I mean they were (are?) on Jay Z's label and I feel like that black influences have always been part of their music.

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u/razzlefrazzle0 Jul 03 '25

It also makes no sense (the hate not the collabs) because Pete Wentz is literally mixed? Like, his mom is black and Jamaican. Ik the punk and rock scenes can be violently discriminatory which is a whole other problem but it feels somehow even stupider coming from a FOB fan.

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u/bside_heart M A N I A Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 03 '25

YES. Sunshine Riptide, Tiffany Blews, The Mighty Fall, Dear Future Self… the way people consistently rank those as their least favorite songs is very odd. 

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u/BigHeadDeadass Infinity On High Jul 03 '25

To be fair it took me years to realize Lil Wayne was on Tiffany Blews and im 90% sure he didn't write his part. I would've loved to hear an actual verse from him that he wrote for the song

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u/bside_heart M A N I A Jul 04 '25

That would've been so cool!!

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u/chadwifechadlife So Much (For) Stardust Jul 02 '25

Tiffany Blews, Dear Future Self, and Sunshine Riptide all get lots of hate and it’s very odd that they all happen to feature black artists. As a non black poc fan that never sat right with me.

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u/asquared98 Sunshine Riptide Apologist Jul 03 '25

The Sunshine Riptide hate especially got to me.

As a Nigerian, I was ecstatic to learn Burna Boy was featured on Mania, the only feature at that. Several Nigerian news outlets even proudly reported on it. Afrobeats wasn't nearly as popular in the West as it is today and to see my culture represented in the music of my favorite band was huge to me.

So to see people completely shit on Burna's verse, make fun of him for speaking "gibberish" (as if a running joke for the past 20+ years hasn't been how Patrick's singing style makes some lyrics damn near impossible to understand), say he ruined the song, and even create and share edits of the song completely omitting him was disheartening to say the least.

A Rock/Afrobeats collab is almost unheard of. FOB's love for genre-bending is hella innovative and what sets them apart from other Rock/Emo bands. You'd think that innovation would be something celebrated, rather than bashed by fans who wish FOB would just release TTTYG and FUCT over and over again for the rest of eternity.

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u/chadwifechadlife So Much (For) Stardust Jul 03 '25

This is so interesting to learn. Sunshine Riptide was my immediate favorite and it was so heartbreaking to see what people said. The thinly veiled racist undertones of its criticism are so nasty and reek of ignorance. I LOVE Burna Boy’s verse cuz it’s a kind of music/ lyricism I rarely hear and it’s very refreshing and new (for me.) FOB’s blending of genres is what makes them, them. It’s not just whiny white boys (although ofc I love that genre too.) They add something different you can’t get from any other band. I was dumbfounded to discover how many people felt negatively of his feature.

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u/trashteela Take This To Your Grave Jul 03 '25

Sunshine Riptide is my absolute favorite off of MANIA, and I’m glad to know more about Burna Boy! His verse made the song literal perfection in my eyes, and I’m so ashamed that so there are so many hateful people in our community! I (a non POC fan) always love to see FOB’s collabs with POC and love to see Patrick pop up in random songs that I love from POC artists (Gym Class Heros esp, so glad they’re back)

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u/RainDear2 Folie à Deux Jul 04 '25

All three are such banger songs too, makes me so sad that they get this much hate

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u/devoncarrots Jul 02 '25

You’re so right, I hate it

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u/Avicii_DrWho Jul 02 '25

A lot of fans of mainstream bands hate rap with a passion.

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u/BigHeadDeadass Infinity On High Jul 03 '25

I agree on that, including hate for Big Sean in The Might Fall. I loved his part in that. I only don't care for Lil Wayne's part in Tiffany Blews simply because it was clear Pete wrote the lyrics for him. I wish they gave Wayne a real verse he wrote himself. Lil Wayne was white hot at the time and it really would've made the bridge soar if he were allowed to write his own verse

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u/Elevated_queen420 Jul 03 '25

Which is even more crazy cause Pete is black

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u/Much_Humor2394 Jul 02 '25

wams is my favorite fob song of all time

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u/The-A-Kid2 Jul 02 '25

Idr see why this would get downvotes because that’s one of the best songs off of Folie, which is their best album

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u/hangar69_ Jul 03 '25

Best track off folie imo 🥹

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u/beyondxhorizons Epiphany is such a cliché Jul 03 '25

Preach.

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u/EmphasisNo8930 Folie à Deux Jul 03 '25

The pre chorus is probably F O B PETE WENTZ best cheeky lyrics ever.💓💯

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u/lilpixie02 Tempest in a Teacup, Get Unique Jul 03 '25

I mean, same!

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u/rudasjudas Jul 02 '25

Rat a Tat is a great song and I love Courtney Love in it

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u/iliveintrees Jul 02 '25

I feel like I’m the only person who thinks this song is top 3 on sr&r

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u/Laureltess From Under The Cork Tree Jul 02 '25

It’s funny, I did not like this song when it came out but now I really love it. I think my music taste just changed a little bit!

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u/black_knight1223 My 9-5 is cutting open old Scars Jul 02 '25

Wait people think that songs bad? I love it

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u/Ordinary_Toe423 Jul 02 '25

I didn’t at first but the rest of the song is so good it groomed me into believing I liked her. Top 10 song for me easily

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u/dawnmountain So Much (For) Stardust Jul 02 '25

NO ITS TRUE! ITS GREAT!

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u/Crab_With_Internet Save Rock and Roll Jul 03 '25

It’s probably my favourite song, honestly

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u/CatharinaBolnes Folie à Deux Jul 03 '25

REAL I SO WANNA HEAR THIS LIVE

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u/tar-luthien A Painter Drawing a Blank Jul 02 '25

MANIA had a lot of good ideas that were fumbled and the best song on it is Bishop's Knife Trick

A lot of Patrick's post-haitus singing focusing on his higher register felt forced, strained and a little grating at times and SMFS was, in general, a great return to form

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u/young_menace Jul 02 '25

Agree about both, but especially the second opinion. A lot of their post-hiatus stuff honestly sounds better pitched down slightly anyway.

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u/iliveintrees Jul 02 '25

Agree with second opinion

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u/jamie_rey77 Jul 02 '25

Mania isn’t their best album but it isn’t as bad as people make it out to be

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u/niamhxa Folie à Deux Jul 03 '25

I absolutely loved Mania :(. Maybe because I was a newer fan - I got into FOB around the same time AB/AP came out when I was like 13, so Mania was the first album/era of theirs that I experienced from the very beginning. I remember watching the Y&M music video the second it came out and I thought it was so good 😭.

Don’t get me wrong I love all their older stuff just as much if not slightly more, Folie is my favourite album of theirs (and probs of all time), but I guess I didn’t have that connection with it that older fans do and the change in their sound was much less stark to me since I was introduced to them through the likes of AB/AP anyway. But it does make me sad to see how many people hate it; it’s a fun album and reminds me of summer 🥹.

Justice for Bishops Knife Trick, Stay Frosty, Wilson, Y&M, Heaven’s Gate and Sunshine Riptide!!! I’ll admit I’m a Champions hater though x

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u/MaydayGreen Jul 03 '25

i agree heavily with this. i’m a big RYMhead so i re-listened to Mania to have the FOB page complete and it’s a lot better than i remember from when it came out. it is probably their weakest for me but it’s still not bad. Stay Frosty, Wilson, and The Last of the Real Ones are bangers.

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u/LexWexiAkabane Jul 02 '25

There's not a single song that's about Nuclear Fallout and I'm upset about it

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u/mrsjakeblues Jul 02 '25

As a Fall Out Boy AND Fallout, now I want them to cover some of the songs on the radios in the game 😭

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u/GAME043010 Jul 02 '25

Save Rock And Roll & American Beauty were great albums 

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u/CatherineConstance Anything U Say Can & Will Be Held Against U So Just Say My Name Jul 02 '25

This is an unpopular opinion?!

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u/GAME043010 Jul 02 '25

To most people especially outside of the fanbase 

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u/CatherineConstance Anything U Say Can & Will Be Held Against U So Just Say My Name Jul 02 '25

Damn I did not realize! Tbh though while I've been a FOB fan since like 2004, aside from my husband and a couple of friends and family who are also fans, I really haven't engaged with any kind of larger fanbase at all.

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u/raven_of_azarath Jul 02 '25

The guy I was dating when Centuries was released absolutely hated the song and would try to shame me for not feeling the same. He refused to listen to anything “mainstream” so I think I was his intro to FOB (at least at the time, I haven’t talked to him in a decade).

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u/loraxtales Jul 03 '25

I cannot stand the SRAR&AB slander. I was always half embarrassed to admit AB was my favorite album until SMFS. But the lyrics on AB are top tier.

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u/knprawesome American Beauty/American Psycho Jul 02 '25

YES!!!!

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '25 edited Jul 09 '25

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u/Lombard333 Jul 02 '25

I know Champion is a little simplistic lyrically, but that song gets me hyped like nothing else.

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u/OrientalDelight Jul 02 '25

I feel like all the hate comes from both those songs being everywhere when they came out.

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u/ReasonableBar6469 Take This To Your Grave Jul 02 '25

I don’t like centuries because I don’t think it should represent the band

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u/OwlLopsided140 Save Rock and Roll Jul 02 '25

Not sure if this is a hot take but IOH is literally just a better FUTCT, and the fact that they branched out is better thank sticking with the same sound for all of their albums

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u/HeyItsAsh7 Jul 02 '25

I think most would agree that they're happy they did branch out more going to ioh and folie, but I don't think FUCT and IoH are that comparable. Theyre both amazing albums, but they're very different, with different vibes

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u/Ryanhuddz14 These friends are, new friends are golden!!💛 Jul 02 '25 edited Jul 03 '25

MANIA has a lot of better songs than American Beauty/American Psycho

Edit: jeez guess it wasn't such a hot take huh

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u/TerpinSaxt In my dreams trees grow all over the streets Jul 02 '25

It has much higher highs, but also lower lows

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u/lauren0494 infinity on high Jul 02 '25

AGREE

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u/CaptainPie999 Daily Rankings guy who's setting in a honeymoon Jul 02 '25

Oh fs. I have three S-Tier songs from MANIA and an S+ song, meanwhile the highest an AB/AP song has gotten is A. I mean, tbf, I also have three MANIA songs in C, but still

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u/CatherineConstance Anything U Say Can & Will Be Held Against U So Just Say My Name Jul 02 '25

Whaaat omg I don't agree with this but I feel like I should listen to both albums back to back and double check...

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u/Iggy2Stackz So Much (For) Stardust Jul 03 '25

This one actually made me sit up and react. That's a good hot take, I appreciate it.

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u/iliveintrees Jul 02 '25

Actually agree with this

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u/Specialist_Designer3 American Beauty/American Psycho Jul 02 '25

ABAP is actually a really good album it’s just not their usual sound. And I like the we didn’t start the fire cover!!!

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u/keyrob13 Jul 02 '25

Folie is in the top three FOB albums put out and I’ll die on that hill every time.

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u/trashteela Take This To Your Grave Jul 03 '25

folie was patrick’s baby and as a patrick stan, i will die on this hill with you, every single time

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u/Ok_College4440 So Much (For) Infinity à Deux / American Psycho Days Jul 07 '25

Folie is top one FOB albums

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u/Noob_Guy_Bruhx6 Jul 02 '25

I openly love Young And Menace. ESPECIALLY for the chorus.

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u/Avicii_DrWho Jul 02 '25

Y&M is a banger.

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u/Smokespun Jul 02 '25

They got better with each album

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u/meowcifer55 M A N I A Jul 02 '25

Came here to say exactly this

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u/deeerlea Infinity On High Jul 02 '25

The rap remix album (Make America Psycho Again) has some bangers 🫣

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u/Avicii_DrWho Jul 02 '25

Jet Pack Blues is so good.

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u/deeerlea Infinity On High Jul 02 '25

Specifically Centuries ft Juicy J, Uma Thurman ft Wiz Khalifa, and the best one is Novocaine ft UZI

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u/meowcifer55 M A N I A Jul 02 '25

It's one of my favorite albums tbh

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u/IAmMeIGuess93 Do I still need more therapy? Jul 03 '25

I hated AB/AP when it came out so didn't bother with the remix album, but have been revisiting skipped stuff since SMFSD was released. As a huge RnB/hip hop fan (and of the early 2000s remixes era generally) I LOVE it!!

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u/MaydayGreen Jul 03 '25

I’ve really grown to love it over the years bc we used the Centuries remix as a warm up song for marching band lmao

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u/Ok_College4440 So Much (For) Infinity à Deux / American Psycho Days Jul 02 '25

I really really like American Beauty/American Psycho

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u/Appropriate_Cup6414 Jul 02 '25

Soul Punk is the best album

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u/kirkurri Folie à Deux Jul 03 '25 edited Jul 03 '25

Young and Menace is a really good song if they had just executed the chorus differently

The idea of it going from a soft slow song to a high energy chaotic chorus is really interesting and I love how the verses sound, but I just feel like if they did less of the edm sound in the chorus and did more of a rock sound (but still making it chaotic and somewhat distorted) as well as add a bit more lyrics in the chorus, this song would’ve been so so good

I was imagining it in the shower one time and it got stuck in my head lol

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u/OscillatingFan6500 Jul 03 '25

Tiffany Blews is a top 10 song from them and the pre-chorus/chorus are amazing

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u/Fun_Remote_4476 Infinity On High Jul 02 '25

bang the doldrums is overrated and isnt top 3 on the album for me

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u/CatherineConstance Anything U Say Can & Will Be Held Against U So Just Say My Name Jul 02 '25

I'm new to this sub (not new to FOB) and I didn't realize that song was so beloved here. I love it, but none of my fellow irl FOB fans seem to think it's anything special and when I saw FOB live last year they performed it and said they had randomly recently done it at a different concert and were shocked that people liked it so much!

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u/Fun_Remote_4476 Infinity On High Jul 02 '25

yeah that song is talked about a lot here, i havent seen many people talk about it on other platforms

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u/StrangeHem Infinity On High Jul 04 '25

Preach, I said the same thing. Not even in my top 10

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u/datgoh69 thnks fr th mmrs even if thy wrnt so g8 Jul 02 '25

Centuries is a good song

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u/Natoc203 Jul 02 '25

My opinion is that the "contrarian" opinion (that post-hiatus/MANIA is good actually) has come full circle to being the dominant opinion, at least on this subreddit.

I'm sick of every "hot takes" thread being full of lukewarm opinions on MANIA or ABAP. Come up with something more original or interesting, please.

FWIW my Hot Take is that From Under The Cork Tree is the worst pre-hiatus album.

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u/sd_zarael From Under The Cork Tree Jul 02 '25

Upvoting a true hot take, even if I don't agree with it. 🙇‍♀️

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u/worqgui Jul 02 '25

Same. I gasped. Very controversial take and I am personally offended by it but I had to upvote it for being the hottest take here.

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u/backpackfullofniall Folie à Deux Jul 02 '25

This is so true. Everytime I see one of these posts it's just people saying "actually mania is good!!!!" As if that hasn't been said ten million times and upvoted into oblivion.

Anyways I agree regarding FUTCT. I don't think it's bad but any means but it's what I listen to the least personally

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u/fcdemergency Jul 02 '25

My opinion is that the "contrarian" opinion (that post-hiatus/MANIA is good actually) has come full circle to being the dominant opinion, at least on this subreddit.

I've noticed this too. If anything i think it's a positive testament that FOB has been able to maintain relevence in the mainstream after shedding the pop-punk sound, to the point where they now have two "halves" of their discography. And we are legitimately weighing which half is the better music.

I really can't think of any other rock band or at least pop punk band that has been as successful reinventing themselves and staying popular. Maybe Paramore?

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u/CatherineConstance Anything U Say Can & Will Be Held Against U So Just Say My Name Jul 02 '25

Omg yes lol on this thread I've seen "MANIA is actually better than American Beauty/American Psycho" like 10 times.

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u/Rua-Yuki Save Rock and Roll Jul 02 '25

Sophomore Slump after all 💀

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u/Thespian_Unicorn Jul 02 '25

Idk about in this subreddit but this opinion (which I don’t fully agree with) in general would have issues. Fall Out Boy’s We Didn’t Start the Fire is better than the original.

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u/Greedy_Bus_5843 From Under The Cork Tree Jul 03 '25

MANIA is actually a good album

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u/Acrobatic_Shine8554 Jul 02 '25

American Beauty/American Psycho is the worst album. I’ve been listening to Fall Out Boy for 20 years, they’re my favorite band and I love them. But that album is the absolute worst. I listened to it once when it came out and haven’t listened to it since.

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u/StumpedSlicken Let the Fire Breathe Me Back to Life 🔥 Jul 02 '25

I don't like or listen to Just One Yesterday due to the lyrics.

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u/hollow-knight-trash Folie à Deux Jul 03 '25

oh my gosh yeah that’s probably the one song where i cringe a little bit hearing the lyrics lol

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u/peter_bee_parker Jul 02 '25

ab/ac has a lot of very good songs, people are just very over dramatic about centuries and immortals. just because they got played a lot doesnt make them bad. they dont have a single "bad" album, they all have their strengths and good songs. sure mania isnt their best album, nor is it my fav, but its not bad by any means. i hate when people get pissy at bands for trying new things, and when they dont work out exactly as the fans want them to they get flamed for it ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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u/lomlghostface From Under The Cork Tree Jul 02 '25

mania is BUNS 💔💔

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u/anoellem Jul 03 '25

i think mania is better than ioh 😅

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u/EmphasisNo8930 Folie à Deux Jul 03 '25

Without PATRICK STUMP - F O B would have been about as famous and successful as AUGUST BURNS RED.

Without PETE WENTZ - F O B would have relegated unceremoniously to Cartel type FAME and CAREER status.

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u/_Jacket_Slxt_ Jul 03 '25

I actually kind of like their cover of we didn't start the fire 🫣

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u/BigHeadDeadass Infinity On High Jul 03 '25

Also i think a lot of fans just want FUTCT part 2. I always see people cringe when they hear something off IOH and explain to me how FUTCT is better than anything else. Like the album is good but their music is so much more than just that album. Also if you really want to hear FUTCT part 2 just listen to TTTYG its like a proto version of FUTCT

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u/Top-Range-6631 So Much (For) Stardust Jul 02 '25

SMFS is their best album, coming from a long time listener 🫣

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u/sakurachan999 So Much Stardust Jul 04 '25

it's such a brilliant amalgamation of all their sounds and abilities imo

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u/Top-Range-6631 So Much (For) Stardust Jul 05 '25

100% agree!! And the songwriting on this album just completely blew my mind!

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u/sakurachan999 So Much Stardust Jul 05 '25

innit! i could talk for *days* about this fucking record like it is unreal.

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u/dawnmountain So Much (For) Stardust Jul 02 '25

TTTYG isn't good. Personally. I think people putting it over other albums is mostly nostalgia.

I said this once and got death threats and I had to turn off reddit notifs

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u/hollow-knight-trash Folie à Deux Jul 03 '25

Most of my distaste towards TTTYG comes from the fact that the songs all sound pretty similar. It’s not really that unique Fall Out Boy sound yet. It’s an album from a young band that hadn’t really grown into its full potential yet, and it falls a little flat for me as well.

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u/dawnmountain So Much (For) Stardust Jul 03 '25

Yes that's exactly it! They're trying too hard to be someone else. When they found their voice, it just made it so much better.

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u/sakurachan999 So Much Stardust Jul 04 '25

i feel so validated rn, i've always felt this way. i've seen people say "tttyg is fob's only good album" like tttyg is not fob

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u/dawnmountain So Much (For) Stardust Jul 04 '25

Fr. Nothing wrong with liking the album or having it be your fave, but the reason it's so different is because they were experimenting.

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u/Skiezies Jul 02 '25

mania is an amazing album

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u/Careful-Opinion-1109 #1 Americas Suitehearts Defender Jul 02 '25

Love MANIA

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u/EmoJimmyFlinders Jul 02 '25

Golden is a terrible song

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u/hitztasyj Jul 03 '25

I skip that song every time.

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u/oblivious_squish From Under The Cork Tree Jul 02 '25

I Don’t Care is their worst lead single

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u/dawnmountain So Much (For) Stardust Jul 02 '25

I Don't Care's lyrics "the best of us can find happiness in misery" unironically keep me going so it's funny to see this take lol but I respect it

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u/runic_trickster7 Jul 02 '25

A lot of their songs kept me alive during a deep depressive slump in college

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u/Natoc203 Jul 02 '25

As a Folie lover I have to agree. I Don't care has never done anything for me, I don't think it really fits the album and might be the worst song on the album for me.

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u/exhibitprogram Jul 02 '25

Yeeeasssssss. Folie is one of my top albums and I Don't Care is my bottom song on it. The sheer relief I felt when I found how much I loved the rest of the album after hearing only the first single and bracing myself to be disappointed....

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u/m00mie Jul 02 '25

Okay so I felt the same exact way until I heard it live this past tour. It sounded like Patrick was singing it in a lower key and now I love it. Also I can finally kinda sing along without wrecking my voice lol. But yes I was definitely more blown away by the rest of Folie.

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u/exhibitprogram Jul 02 '25

I agree that I like the live version a lot more, but I still like it least compared to live versions of any other song on that album lol.

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u/m00mie Jul 02 '25

I hear you lol

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u/SushiRiceroni Jul 03 '25

Fully agree, super fun to play in beat saber though.

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u/exhibitprogram Jul 02 '25

Infinity on High is lower on my list of favourites, even though it seems to be in everyone's top three. I like Folie, SMFS, FUCT, and SRAR more than IOH.

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u/InternationalTip350 Save Rock and Roll Jul 02 '25 edited Jul 03 '25

Alone Together is a Top 5 FOB song of all time

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u/immortalsauce Folie à Deux Jul 02 '25

Mania is their worst album and I can’t listen to most all the songs on it. Yes, it’s worse than AB/AP. Also the song AB/AP isn’t that bad.

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u/Avicii_DrWho Jul 02 '25

Not sure about the last part, but the rest is a super cold take.

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u/Firecrackled So Much (For) Stardust Jul 02 '25

Mania and AB/AP are both head and shoulders better than SRAR. I don’t get why people like SRAR so much more than the others, the only good songs are My Songs, The Phoenix, Alone Together and Where did the Party Go. Mania has the worst song in their discography but beside that, it’s good & AB/AP is great pop.

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u/Ordinary_Toe423 Jul 02 '25

I didn’t at first but the rest of the song is so good it groomed me into believing I liked her part

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u/dynamitebark Jul 02 '25

when i was 13 i actively despised FUTCT and IOH, and primarily only listened to post hiatus FOB. this isn’t an opinion i uphold anymore, but it still makes me giggle thinking about it to this day

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u/whomsssssst Save Rock and Roll Jul 03 '25

i like Stay Frosty AND Champion 😭

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u/StrangeHem Infinity On High Jul 04 '25

Bang the Doldrums is one of the weakest songs on ioh. It’s good but super overrated

And Folie à Deux doesn’t deserve all the hype. Fob had much better albums, it’s not even comparable. It’s a great album but far from being the best

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u/Gay_Lab_Rat Jul 04 '25

Their cover of WDSTF is so ridiculously overrhated for no reason 😭

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u/totthehero Save Rock and Roll Jul 06 '25

Save Rock And Roll is their best album my a mile

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u/unlostaprilseventh Jul 02 '25

It happens every time.

I'm Like a Lawyer is a bottom 5 FOB song

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u/m2Q12 Jul 02 '25

Im happy they are experimenting but I don’t like their new sound.

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u/thatmermaidshark Miss the way I felt nothing 🫥 Jul 02 '25

I don't think any of their albums are bad, nor any song. They all hit different in a good way, and the albums show a wonderful evolution and discovery. And even if that's not the unpopular opinion, the fan base acts like anyone who says it are "pick-me" types. When really we are just tired of seeing fans criticizing songs they dont like instead of celebrating what they do like.

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u/raven_of_azarath Jul 02 '25

I actually like Young and Menace (especially the piano version!)

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u/Former_Salamander350 Jul 02 '25

Bang the doldrums is nowhere near my top 10 fob songs

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u/-Just_Jungkookie- M A N I A Jul 02 '25

I know immortals is one of the most popular songs, everyone knows it. But it's still BANGER AS HELL, S TIER SONG BRO. Adding to that, we shouldn't hate on people new to fob, like "oh you don't know this song fake fan", "your favourite song is centuries? You're a NORMIE" (just examples ygm). I've been a fob fan for a long long time and Immortals is easily in my top 10.

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u/[deleted] Jul 05 '25

Ikr immorals is sooo good and I'm not ashamed to say I got into fall out boy through centuries on an assassin's Creed amv

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u/-Just_Jungkookie- M A N I A Jul 06 '25

EXACTLY

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u/Western_Customer3836 Take This To Your Grave Jul 02 '25

I feel like some songs on Infinity on High are pretty weak.

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u/UndertaleAndGameFan Jul 03 '25

A lot of these comments are cold takes, y'all want a hot take? Golden is a skip ALWAYS on I.O.H, good song but feels like an interlude, and the remixes on f.u.t.c.t deluxe are ass.

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u/ImJustLilly Jul 03 '25

AB/AP is a bad album. It's not horrible, but definitely bad imo. The production is terrible (no hate to Jake Sinclair, love the white album), and the songwriting is bland. Yes, some songs are pretty good (Uma Thurman, Irresistible, Twin Skeletons), but most songs are either very boring or outright annoying (Centuries, The Kids Aren't Alright). Recently, a lot of people have claiming that this album is "underrated" but i think most people just like liking bad albums cuz it's different

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u/neea22 Jul 03 '25

I don’t really care for This Ain’t a Scene. Is probably bottom 3-4 on IoH for me (my favorite album). I think it’s only popular because it’s easier to sing along with compared to other songs from the album + had the marketability.

I have no nostalgia attached to it since there were better singles from their previous albums. The plodding pace just kills me. The lyrics are fine.

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u/raamimaleks Jul 02 '25

AB/AP is worse than mania

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u/ljfbnkzfdbv 2ourdust MPLS Survivor Jul 02 '25

Folie is an excellent album but has the worst singles of all of them.

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u/ljfbnkzfdbv 2ourdust MPLS Survivor Jul 02 '25

Headfirst Slide is the only one I think deserved to be a single

Personally, I don't know that I could pick differently because I have a follow up hot take: the singles are usually the worst songs on any FOB album 😶

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u/tommiejay_ Jul 02 '25

MANIA is their worst album and it’s a shame that it even exists

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u/The-A-Kid2 Jul 02 '25

I think this is a pretty normal opinion that album is GAAARBAGE

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u/Rayz6695 Folie à Deux Jul 02 '25

Miss missing you is one of the corniest songs I’ve heard from them. “The person that you’d take a bullet for is behind the trigger” had already cycled through so many moody generic tumblr posts in the 2010s by the time they made that song that it gave me secondhand embarrassment hearing it.

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u/Economy_Housing7257 Jul 02 '25

Yk I like MMY but people saying that that’s their best lyric must have actually been born yesterday. Like people were saying that on a post that asked “what is fobs best lyric.” I like the rest of the song, but ur right that lyric is quite overdone.

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u/stompedtacobell Save Rock and Roll Jul 02 '25

Young and menace is overHATED and people seemingly can't handle artists experimenting with different genres that sound different than the usual genre they work with, that song felt refreshing.

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u/CyndiXero Infinity On High Jul 02 '25

It’s not hated because it’s different or experimental. Infinity on High, Folie, and Srar are 3 albums in a row that all were somewhat different and more experimental than the last, and each one is looked at pretty positively from the fanbase. Y&m is a different case where that ear-grating chorus is a LOT to handle for some people, and even if you enjoy it, it’s not hard to understand why it may not be for some people.

Even if I can’t stand the song, it sure as hell ain’t for the reason that they tried to make something different out of it. I appreciate that aspect about them, but that song is definitely a demanding listen.

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u/Glad-Fish5863 Jul 02 '25

Mania is trash. I haven’t even listened to the entire thing. I’ve been a diehard fob fan since 2005 and always said they could release anything and I’d like it. Until mania. I physically cannot listen to it.

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u/backpackfullofniall Folie à Deux Jul 02 '25

Post hiatus isnt very good. Actually a lot of it is actively bad.

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u/-SlowBar Jul 02 '25

Precisely this. I said the same thing

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u/quarabs Infinity On High Jul 02 '25

i respect u for saying this cuz itd have me shot in the street

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u/backpackfullofniall Folie à Deux Jul 02 '25

It's my truth and I refuse to pretend otherwise

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u/quarabs Infinity On High Jul 02 '25

i only listen to like 3 songs off abap and even less from mania tbh. smfs and srar are mid-good but cannot compare to ioh

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u/backpackfullofniall Folie à Deux Jul 02 '25

IOH and Folie are my favorite albums of all time!!!

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u/quarabs Infinity On High Jul 02 '25

immortals is the worst song theyve released.

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u/The-A-Kid2 Jul 02 '25

Worse than Young And Menace is a bit far. Young And Menace is literally one of the worst songs I’ve ever listened too

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u/quarabs Infinity On High Jul 02 '25 edited Jul 02 '25

just because techno -hiphop- dubstep isnt your thing doesn’t mean it’s not someone’s. it goes very hard on a subwoofer, my boyfriend loves it in his truck.

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u/FlamingFlyingV Save Rock and Roll Jul 02 '25

IOH is good, but it's probably sitting at sixth on my personal ranking when most people have it as their favorite

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u/exhibitprogram Jul 02 '25

THERE ARE TWO OF US!!!!

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u/FlamingFlyingV Save Rock and Roll Jul 02 '25

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u/JadeStew Take This To Your Grave Jul 02 '25

I don’t know why this pic makes me laugh so hard

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u/Blak_fire Jul 02 '25

Patrick better without hat

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u/fourphonejones Folie à Deux Jul 02 '25

Church and Favorite Record are my two least favorite songs by FOB and I don't understand why people like them so much.

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u/Elevated_queen420 Jul 03 '25

I think Pete Wentz really did date a teenager...

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u/ExcitedNachos Jul 02 '25

MANIA and AB/AP is not a good overall albums

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u/-SlowBar Jul 02 '25

I'd be fine if their discography ended after Folie

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u/Rua-Yuki Save Rock and Roll Jul 02 '25

TTTYG doesn't age well.

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u/iLikeePie Jul 03 '25

Idk if it’s an unpopular opinion but I wish evening out with your girlfriend received more love! I really love how raw it sounds but then again I understand that it might not be everyone’s thing

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u/sakurachan999 So Much Stardust Jul 04 '25

young and menace is fun and i enjoy it! i totally don't blame fob fans for disliking it cause it's totally out of left field but (aside from being a bit repetitive, which a few fob songs suffer from) i think it's good. i especially love this jimmy fallon performance and how they adapted it to be played live

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u/folieadoit Jul 06 '25

I don’t like take this to your grave…

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u/ConsistentAd6360 Jul 06 '25

Wish they have removed all Mania and AB/AP from their tour (at least leave Centuries in the encore) and leave more songs from SR&R, or even TTO,TBO which I don't understand why they left it out (at least the 2 shows I went to they didn't play it).

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u/Dragon_Pulse05 Jul 08 '25

My songs know is one of their best and most exciting songs

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u/Ill_Candy3909 Jul 08 '25

i want them to make a hardcore album. like tap back into andy & pete’s old old stuff like arma angelus or racetraitor.