r/Firefighting NH FF Nov 25 '24

News Ohio fire department confronted about response to double fatal fire

https://chroniclet.com/news/411559/wakeman-fire-board-meeting-ends-in-shouting-match-over-fatal-fire/
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u/Froggynoch Nov 25 '24

Sounds like two people tragically died and the family is trying to find a way to cope. Unfortunately, they are taking it out on the very people who tried to help.

The family is upset because they were very close to the fire department and feel like the fire department failed them. They seem to be in the “anger” stage of grief.

The fire department is upset because they are being directly blamed for the deaths despite doing everything they could. They arrived in 3.5 minutes and did their best to save the victims. Unfortunately, they were faced with a fully-involved structure fire and didn’t couldn’t rescue the victims in time.

Sounds like it was a mistake to put everyone in the same room together so soon after the incident.

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u/Ok_Buddy_9087 Edit to create your own flair Nov 25 '24

Unfortunately, they are taking it out on the very people who tried to help.

Unless they didn’t. The the father is saying on Facebook that the room the victims were in wasn’t touched by the fire.

The fire department is upset because they are being directly blamed for the deaths despite doing everything they could. They arrived in 3.5 minutes and did their best to save the victims.

Did they? If the father is right that room should’ve been VES’d immediately.

Unfortunately, they were faced with a fully-involved structure fire and didn’t couldn’t rescue the victims in time.

Which we don’t know for sure.

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u/[deleted] Nov 25 '24 edited Nov 25 '24

The father stated to the media that firefighters tried to make entry and search from the back of the house but were unable to because of the conditions.

So while maybe they didn't try every single thing a mroe experieced or capable dept might have they did try.

The first arriving crew was there in 3.5 minutes. Their station is 2 minutes from the affected property. So I'm guessing they either had some sort of duty crew or event going on at station that yielded the rapid response time.

As for what happened after their stellar response time? I don't understand that. Major training failure? Overweight unfit ffs? Exterior only guys? Who knows. Based on the house and fire situation, this should have been an easy grab.

Looking through pictures on their facebook it doesn't look like a grossly unkept FD so all I can think is either the first responding crew was somehow all or mostly exterior only or just had incredibly poor training.

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u/Ok_Buddy_9087 Edit to create your own flair Nov 25 '24

I’m not convinced that response time was actually Firefighters. I’ve seen a story that says PD and EMS were there first. Three and a half minutes for “a” response is great, but if it’s not a response by people who can help, it doesn’t mean anything.