r/Firefighting • u/The_Road_is_Calling NH FF • Nov 25 '24

News Ohio fire department confronted about response to double fatal fire

https://chroniclet.com/news/411559/wakeman-fire-board-meeting-ends-in-shouting-match-over-fatal-fire/
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u/UCLABruin07 Nov 25 '24

Let it be known to all firefighters…. If there is a victim that is screaming for help on the phone, can be heard on scene, you get you ass in that building and get them. Without a hose line if you can get one charged and advancing in the time it takes you to finish a 360. You get on the radio and say confirmed rescue, start an ambulance and a second alarm. Then you get your ass in there. Unless you don’t have training. In that case DEMAND from your department that they get you trained. That is the main reason we’re here in this job, life safety.

No debate, no argument, get your ass to those victims or live with the fact you didn’t forever.

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u/BarBillingsleyBra Nov 26 '24

You would be kicked out of my class. Number One Rule!!! "Is my scene safe?" No? Great, now we have another victim to save.

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u/The_Road_is_Calling NH FF Nov 26 '24

Of course the scene isn’t safe, that’s why they called the fire department!

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u/UCLABruin07 Nov 26 '24

So you would be okay with yourself if you called a building fully involved, not making entry, right after a seven year old climbed out leaving his mom and sister in a burning house? Then during overhauling finding a smoke damaged room that didn’t have fire??

If so, then you have a very different view on this job than I do, and the VAST majority at my department.

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u/UCLABruin07 Nov 26 '24

And you shouldn’t be a firefighter if there’s a victim talking to you in a room saying they’re trapped and you do nothing but play grab ass outside.

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u/UCLABruin07 Nov 26 '24 edited Nov 26 '24

Ever hear of old saying, “Risk little to save a little, risk a lot to save a lot.”

For all you that I guess need clarification, of course if it’s fully involved and there’s no survivability profile, then we’re not going in. If there’s a chance to save a life, or in this case a mother and child, GET YOUR ASS IN THERE, OR GET THE F&@$ OUT OF MY WAY.

I’m not throwing my life, or my crew’s life away. It’s not like we’re running into flames with no gear or BA on. We’re going to push as far and as fast as we can to make that grab, to the breaking point of our gear.

Can we possibly get burned? Yes. Is there a chance that we could perish? Possibly, but I’m counting on my training, the pre-planning I’ve done with my crew, my neighboring fire brothers and sister, to bust their ass to help because a life is on the line.

If you’re not willing to push to the extreme, smartly, then you seriously need to DEMAND more training and take anything less as unacceptable. Does everything need to be live-fire training? Absolutely not, dry runs are totally helpful too.

And sorry, not sorry, if you don’t feel the same, then leave this profession. There is an ambulance medic shortage after all.