r/Firefighting • u/JohannLandier75 Tennessee FF (Career) • Feb 08 '25

News Federal Hiring Freeze prevents on-boarding of wildland firefighters

https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/08/us/firefighters-federal-hiring-freeze/index.html
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u/Big-Style-5490 Feb 09 '25

Let it burn. Thats trumps moto. He’ll blame it on everyone but himself. Disgusting what we’re dealing with.

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u/Skunk_Ape- Feb 09 '25

Yeah just like the incompetent LA Fire Chief who is only in that position because of sexual identity politics. 

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u/Big-Style-5490 Feb 09 '25

Yup, that’s why everything burned the way it did. Had nothing to do with funding/staffing the fire department properly. Requires federal funding in an area of that magnitude. A lot of federal funding. I mean that’s if you want to properly staff a fire department that can quickly get a fire under control vs. waiting for mutual aid from everywhere to stop a disaster. You pay for (I mean you vote for) what you get. Those on the front lines are left to figure out and respond with the resources they have available.

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u/Skunk_Ape- Feb 09 '25

Hey do you forget this is all about forestry management, or lack of? Lack of water supply that was purposely shut off by the dip shit state government. This is not a federal issue, this is a California state government issue. Cali burned with Joe Biden in office and he didn’t do dick for them, or Hawaii.

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u/Big-Style-5490 Feb 09 '25

Can’t change what’s already taken place as far as disaster. What matters now and in the future is funding and staffing. No one is doing forestry management so don’t pretend it’s backed by either political party you dope. The water supply would have been completely inundated no matter where the fire took place. I mean, if you really know what you’re talking about…

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u/Skunk_Ape- Feb 09 '25

These fire should have never happened, and you are a moron if you think proper forest management doesn’t take place in other states. These fires happen from incompetent at the state level and even county level. Take accountability, that’s what the fire service is built on. Are you even a FF? Half of this sub Reddit isn’t and that’s clear as day, nothing but a bunch of trump hating trolls

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u/Big-Style-5490 Feb 09 '25

captain urban area.

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u/OttoOtter Feb 09 '25

Looks like you live in South Florida. Not sure why anyone would listen to your opinion about fire in California.

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u/Skunk_Ape- Feb 09 '25

Well for well for one, we actually have proper forestry management and controlled burns in our state, second of all you can’t smell your own shit on your knees. I understand your allegiance for California, I assume you are a native but it’s okay to admit your state is run like dog shit, stop blaming Trump for all your problems, he’s been in office for 3 weeks. Dip shit Biden did nothing for you these last 4 years.

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u/Big-Style-5490 Feb 09 '25

Did more for the fire service than any president has in your lifetime. Wait and see if you don’t believe me.

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u/Skunk_Ape- Feb 09 '25

I needed that laugh.

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u/HokieFireman Fire, EM Feb 09 '25

Hey tell us more how cutting grants, funding, pay, now entire agencies that work with USAR teams and EM and firefighters especially wildland is a good thing?

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u/OttoOtter Feb 09 '25

Lol. Funny story: I've had to go out to Florida and Georgia multiple times because apparently, the locals struggle with burning on flat coastal plains or flat pine plantations. The only people I've met there after multiple years of winter burning that are competent are from at least 2 time zones away.

Your comments about fire mitigation in the Sanata Monica mountains expose you as more ignorant than any western volly firefighter clad in the brightest of yellow shirts.

Also I'm not from California, but as is with the case with most fed guys, we travel all over the country and will see more fire in a few seasons than folks like you will in a lifetime.

You wouldn't make it 24 hours with a Cali hotshot crew. You wouldn't know what to make of all the fire and smoke and men and women actually working for more than 4 hours of the day.

And yeah. This is entirely on Trump. I just showed you an email that came from the Whitehouse encouraging firefighters, among others, to quit.

Just because you're a loud-mouthed arrogant gooner who thinks running 20 lift-assists a shift makes you God's gift to fire and EMS doesn't make it so.

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u/synapt PA Volunteer Feb 10 '25

Yeah his claim about Florida is kind of entertaining considering in 2023 Florida had 101,000~ acres burned in 2,600~ wildfires.

I feel that's an impressive accomplishment for a state that's 31% wetlands.

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u/Skunk_Ape- Feb 09 '25

So you are telling me that these fires were not preventable at all right? Nothing could have been done differently to change the out come? You speak broadly about all your experience but fail to talk about anything preventative. This falls on Gaven Newsome, the LA county Mayor and Fire Chief.

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u/OttoOtter Feb 09 '25

The only real answer, if you're looking for one, is to quit letting people build houses in fire-prone and fire dependent ecosystems.

All the firefighters, water, and money in the world won't stop a fire burning in 100 MPH gusts.

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u/Big-Style-5490 Feb 09 '25

All fires are preventable. Conditions that are prevalent play a hell of a cause. Were you there? Sustainable winds of 30+ mph drive fire like you can’t imagine. Now take a RESIDENTIAL neighborhood full of dry vegetation everywhere (that’s the state’s fault? Or the natural environment?). Add the terrain there. Also the winds were significantly higher, I was just stating the obvious. What kind of fire attack do you expect to keep that in check? And considering it’s about funding with you, what should it cost you tax dollar wise?

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u/Cpt_Soban Volunteer Firefighter Australia Feb 09 '25

These fire should have never happened

Yet they did mate lol. A fire department exists as the next stage if a fire starts...

Are you even a FF?

Are you?

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u/synapt PA Volunteer Feb 10 '25

He's claimed before that he is but almost all of his comments that I can recall on this subreddit have been more of movie-firefighting responses than actual firefighting knowledge, and he more often than not pops up mostly in these kind of topics where it political-leaning and likely to turn into shit talking about Trump.

Pretty sure he's just part of Trump's PR team at this point. Why the mods haven't banned him yet I don't really get lol.

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u/HazMatsMan Career Co. Officer Feb 10 '25

We don't ban people based on who they vote for.

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u/synapt PA Volunteer Feb 10 '25

When his entire existence in this subreddit is mostly just him inciting and arguing to the point his overall account comment karma is -100 almost purely from r/firefighting, it feels like he's pretty well past being in compliance with rule #2, at least to me lol.

Specifically when it's almost all oriented only around specific subjects that just happen to be politically oriented. I've seen people warned in the past for simply borderline pure passive aggressive comments, but this guy just seems to get a free pass to say the dumbest and most ignorant stuff seemingly for no intention other than to get a rise out of people.

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u/HazMatsMan Career Co. Officer Feb 10 '25

We can't go solely on karma either, especially when it comes to politics because of the block downvoting that occurs. Someone says they like the wrong politician in the wrong subreddit, and it's an instant -50 karma bomb for them. And as far as "dumb and ignorant" goes, I could pick out dozens of comments (from this post alone) from people on both sides that fit that description.

If people are trolling, report it. That's what the report feature is for, but if you've been flaming them in return, or provoking it, don't complain when your stuff gets blasted too.

If you have evidence of someone engaging in "stolen valor", impersonating a firefighter, etc use the report function or contact the mod team directly via modmail.

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