r/Firefighting • u/H0sedragg3r FF/ EMT • Feb 16 '25

News Utah public unions banned from collective bargaining with the state

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/utah-public-unions-banned-collective-bargaining-with-state-2025-02-16/
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u/pnwall42 Feb 16 '25

I’ll never say never, but I doubt trump goes against police unions this hard which is how we would get pushed out of CBA nationwide, IMO. He is also more focused on education, cutting DOE seems to be his way of doing what Utah is doing in a different way.

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u/Kibaken IL Captain/Paramedic Feb 16 '25

It's literally in project 2025 my guy. They don't give a fuck about anyone. They'll eat the cops faces just like they'll eat yours.

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u/pnwall42 Feb 16 '25

And guess what, there is nothing we could do about it. IAFF wasn’t changing this presidential outcome. So how they look like fools? Because the didn’t endorse Kamala? So they endorse and now the target is bigger on our backs. Like I said earlier, trump comes after his enemies, and even though organized labor is apart of 2025, we are not the agenda right now. Utah had this bill for two years, this did not happen in the last month and is a state level thing. The only thing the IAFF can do for the next 4 years is stay out of the federal crosshairs and focus on state level wins, imo. We don’t have the money to fight anything that trump brings at us, we are fucking France in world war 2, you hang low and let the tides hopefully turn back towards labor in 4 years. Politics is fucking messy, I hate that we have to be apart of it, but you can’t call the IAFF fools when we won’t know for years what the outcome is. Also seeing you’re from Illinois, you can see how Chicago Fire is doing in a blue state and in a blue city, they are losing as well. No contract for 3 1/2 years………..

Like I said, politics is a life long chess game and guess what firefighters and even labor will always just be a pawn on the board. We will never win. Sometimes we will have it better under other administrations, but we answer to rich, whether that be a Dem or Rep in office.

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u/Kibaken IL Captain/Paramedic Feb 16 '25

You say that but how many IAFF members proudly wear red hats? Keep voting against your own interests.