r/Firefighting • u/H0sedragg3r FF/ EMT • Feb 16 '25

News Utah public unions banned from collective bargaining with the state

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/utah-public-unions-banned-collective-bargaining-with-state-2025-02-16/
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u/ApprehensiveGur6842 Feb 16 '25

The IAFF under Ed Kelly’s leadership has failed to educate its members. It was one of the highest rated items in the survey they used as an excuse to sit this election out. Ed Kelly’s tenure with the IAFF needs to end.

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u/pnwall42 Feb 16 '25

IAFF was not getting Kamala the win. She lost by a landslide. They were smart to sit it out. Trump comes harder after his enemies. Right now we don’t have a target on our back. In addition, this bill in Utah has been in the works for the past couple years when the teacher union fought back against the R ticket in the state over policies in schools.

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u/Dal90 Feb 16 '25

Reagan won by a landslide with 58% of the nationwide vote and an 18ppt margin in 1984.

Nothing about Trump's election was a landslide with 49.8% and 1.5ppt margin, it was a tighter than usual election.

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u/pnwall42 Feb 17 '25

He controlled the swing states. Can’t go with the pop vote

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u/Dal90 Feb 17 '25

That is not how a landslide works.

Had three states with similarly tight results broke for Harris, Trump would have lost.

PA (+1.7), MI (+1.4), WI (+0.9). Had 115,000 voters across those states voted for Harris, Trump would have lost.

There is nothing about Trump's election that was a landslide.