r/Firefighting hose toucher Feb 24 '25

Ask A Firefighter So I did a thing

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Anyone ever seen this before?

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u/Dweide_Schrude FFII/EMT-A Feb 24 '25

You hurt the Hurst!

What were you cutting??

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u/JruePeakcock hose toucher Feb 24 '25

Hinge on a Nissan Altima. Thing was a bitch

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u/mysterysam101 Feb 24 '25

It wasn’t the hinge. These tools aren’t designed to cut with a torsional load. Next time let the tool work and readjust.

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u/boatplumber Feb 25 '25

I would say it's the opposite of let the tool do the work. Good catch phrase, but in this case you have to fight the rotation, or readjust. Tip loading, or a twist that allows the metal to get between and spread the blades apart is what causes this to happen. I think of the tool doing the work as stepping back and letting things break when they do. It could read "let the tool do the work until it starts to spin" and readjust.

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u/Alternative_Leg4295 Feb 25 '25

So you can only let cutters move on the same plane as the blades?

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u/boatplumber Feb 25 '25

Yes, that's a good way to explain it when it comes to these Hurst edraulics. I don't have experience outside of Hurst. If they move off plane a little, they will be fine. I fight the roll, and if it looks like it's going to beat me, I readjust.

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u/Alternative_Leg4295 Feb 26 '25

Thanks, I too have very limited expirience outside of hurst, and for some odd reason, the VFD that I am with ( which from 2017-2023 ran avg of 30-50 entrapment calls) has run ONE pin job since I started, and I wasnt even there. Needless to say, my knowledge is still limited to a few training cars.

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u/no_fire_on_arrival Feb 25 '25

This is incorrect. You don’t and can’t “fight the rotation” of 10,000+ PSI — reposition and get a deeper bite where the tool is designed to cut and you will limit roll.

we even teach removing your support hand after attaining a purchase.

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u/boatplumber Feb 25 '25

Are you talking about cutters or spreaders? Attaining a purchase sounds like a spreader situation which I agree with you on.

You can absolutely fight the rotation, which will get it to puncture and bring lighter metals deeper in. Sometimes you lose, and need to readjust. Your rated psi numbers are not what you are fighting, you are coaxing the tool to assist the puncture. Try it next time you train on them.