r/Firefighting Apr 24 '25

News Winston-Salem Firefighters: Underpaid, Understaffed, and Now Losing Their Sick Time— I heard you sir, have a seat.

Winston-Salem firefighters are facing a full-scale erosion of their pay, staffing, and safety—and the city is doubling down. Here's what’s happening:

  • No step pay plan means firefighters have no guaranteed path to raises. They’re stuck in vague pay bands, creating pay compression and forcing many to leave for better-paying departments.

  • Staffing was slashed from 89 to 79 per shift, well below the 4-person-per-truck standard set by NFPA and IFSTA.

  • Safety 7 and the air supply truck were eliminated, removing key fireground safety support and equipment resupply.

  • Sick time cut in half—from 288 to 134 hours a year. First-year vacation time also slashed from 240 to 112 hours. Even senior firefighters with 20+ years lose hundreds of hours.

  • They’re paid 4–7% less than comparable departments in North Carolina despite facing more fires and longer shifts.

  • Union President Parrinello was shut down at a city council meeting while trying to speak: “I heard you, sir. Have a seat.” —Mayor Allen Joines

  • Meanwhile, Greensboro staffs 156 per shift. Winston-Salem does more with less and still gets punished for it.

  • Firefighters are taking second jobs after 24-hour shifts just to get by—this isn’t just morale. It’s a public safety issue.

Full articles here: https://archive.ph/kjuy9
https://archive.ph/7Svig

Watch the mayor shut down the Union President. https://www.youtube.com/live/fYXwPz5VwOw?si=q5WTCgW5HMCwgQSl&t=1h16m5s

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u/Timeless997 Apr 24 '25

Damn at this point NC sounds like a sh*t hole for ff

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u/Igloo_dude Career FF/EMT-B Apr 25 '25

I’m a Firefighter in Western NC, about 45 minutes west of Charlotte. I make about 50K a year working a 24/48 as a 3 year FF. There are some really good departments to work for, but they’re few and far between.

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u/superman7515 Apr 25 '25

From the wording you used, I honestly don't know if you're using your salary and hours as an example of what is good or what is bad in the area.

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u/Igloo_dude Career FF/EMT-B Apr 25 '25

It’s on par with departments that are roughly the same size. What screws us is being so close to Charlotte. We’ve lost a lot of dudes to Charlotte because they can damn near double our pay. On the back side though, we’ve gotten big raises to make us “more competitive”.

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u/fireinthesky7 TN FF/Paramedic Apr 26 '25

If you're making $50k after raises, I have to assume everyone in your department was on the verge of poverty before.

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u/Igloo_dude Career FF/EMT-B Apr 26 '25

Yeah kinda