r/Firefighting • u/Launch_Rockface • Jul 10 '25

General Discussion Unpopular Opinions In the Fire Service

I am curious what other peoples unpopular opinions of the fire service are? I know there are alot of things we are doing or trying to do to improve the fire service as far as training and wellness, but I also know alot of it is just not that great in my opinion.

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u/Fly_throwaway37 Jul 11 '25

The fuck did I just read? Sleep deprivation absolutely is linked to cancer.

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u/Strict-Canary-4175 Jul 11 '25

You just read me say that sleep deprivation and being out of shape doesn’t cause more cancer in firemen than PFAs. Could you read it this time?

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u/MudHammock Jul 11 '25

You literally said word for word "sleep deprivation doesn't cause cancer"

Yes, it can contribute to it. You're overly opinionated and under educated. And condescending, which makes it worse since you're absolutely in the wrong.

From John Hopkins

"Disruptions in the body’s “biological clock,” which controls sleep and thousands of other functions, may raise the odds of cancers of the breast, colon, ovaries and prostate. Exposure to light while working overnight shifts for several years may reduce levels of melatonin, encouraging cancer to grow."

Sounds pretty relevant to EMS. And look, two of the cancers mentioned are also the two you mentioned the fire service disproportionately suffers from.

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u/Strict-Canary-4175 Jul 11 '25

“May raise odds of cancer” Isn’t the same thing as being a carcinogen.

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u/MudHammock Jul 11 '25

Who said it was? Being obese isn't a carcinogen, but we can all agree that it contributes to cancer development. What is your argument here?

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u/Strict-Canary-4175 Jul 11 '25

The comment I was responding to said that sleep deprivation causes more cancer in firemen than PFAs. My argument is that it doesn’t.

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u/MudHammock Jul 11 '25

He said that sleep deprivation AND being out of shape PROBABLY causes more cancer than PFAs (which is completely possible).

You said "sleep deprivation doesn't cause cancer" and I responded to that. Then you made some strange remark about how bad sleep isn't carcinogenic.

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u/Strict-Canary-4175 Jul 11 '25

Saying that those things cause cancer more than carcinogens isn’t based on anything at all.

I said sleep deprivation isn’t a carcinogen. I’m not sure what you think is strange about that.