But if there's a situation where you'd be sending someone up a ladder with a hose anyway or operating the boom thing which has a hose attached what's the difference? It's the same job no ?
You just use it when it's practical and needed. The person operating it is still fighting the fire the same as if they had a hose directly in their hands ?
probably just one of those things I won't understand because I haven't done it.
The part youre missing is that when you have that person change their job, instead of doing their usual job, they now operate the drone. That messes up the 7 other guys who needed that one extra guy in order to complete their task.
You sometimes need 2 entire companies (8 men) to operate one handline inside of a highrise. If you pull one or two guys out of there to run drones, now your handline isnt advancing.
And this is an example from my department who has 4 guys per company. Most departments have 3, which means that guy being taken out to run drones makes it even harder to advance the line than in my case.
I understand what you mean but I meant in the situation where you'd be using the hose that's attached to the ladder or someone on the ladder with a hose anyway. Someone would be operating that regardless and so you wouldn't really be taking someone away from a different job because it's the same job ?
I might be confusing myself so I'm just going to accept I'm wrong lol
The ladders are dual purpose and the drones fail to deliver on one of those very important purposes. To save people who are trapped and hanging out of windows.
You can still have a hose on the ladder, this could just be used in awkward spots or whatever when needed. I'm not saying for the drone to replace anything completely just as another tool/add-on that can be used when needed.
Yea but the whole point of the conversation above was that it would only be a good addition IF its used as an addition with extra personnel. Not as a replacement for a tower or ladder. There are zero scenarios where replacing a ladder and the 1500 gallon per minute master stream on it with a drone with a 50 gallon per minute stream with no ladder is a good idea.
If you use the ladder and have a specialized unit for the drones, then it can be useful.
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u/FruitOrchards 14d ago
But if there's a situation where you'd be sending someone up a ladder with a hose anyway or operating the boom thing which has a hose attached what's the difference? It's the same job no ?
You just use it when it's practical and needed. The person operating it is still fighting the fire the same as if they had a hose directly in their hands ?
probably just one of those things I won't understand because I haven't done it.