New union contract is disappointing/dangerous

[u/RustyShackles69]

Im not going to give too much info since who knows who's reading this and can track it back to me. I saw info on the changes to our contract, and to say my jaw dropped is an understatement. I can't for the life of me understand how the city can think its okay to try and count chiefs toward maning and use a nearby jurisdiction's 2 man apparatus as emergency staffing.

I get it. We work alot of ot, but another officer in a pickup doesn't help us on a fire scene in the same way as a 3rd or 4th on an engine.

Well survive we are cowboy company and have made small staffs work so far but the city is gaining population not losing people.

Also, shame on the old men running the union prioritizing the dollar bills paid over obvious nfpa safety concerns. I guess the city will wait til people die and they get sued to make changes.

[u/Goddess_of_Carnage]

I hate to break it to you, but let an F5 come through and responding as a fire company won’t really be a consideration.

That said, from an artful perspective, you might use a 737 or other big ass jet crashing as the example.

Cause no place is safe from a plane falling out of the sky.

Just an idea.

[u/Dugley2352 → u/Goddess_of_Carnage]

The point is the potential resources are going to be out of service, or busy with their own issues.

[u/Goddess_of_Carnage → u/Dugley2352]

That’s true.

A good ff/medic friend of mine pointed out what of disaster response means when literally there is little left is that is recognizable.

You walk out and make sure you and yours are okay. Then you walk to your neighbors and respond there.

He pointed out that in widespread catastrophic disaster, most won’t make it to work, heck, there may be no where to work or apparatus or other staffers—and you may not make it out of your neighborhood and that has to okay, for it’s reality.

I knew he’d seen things, was crazy smart & experienced and, yet, I silently scoffed a bit—how bad would it have to be to keep me from working?

I was an idiot. As it turned out, it only had to be F4 bad.

Hoping I never see that elusive plane crash. =\

[u/Dugley2352 → u/Goddess_of_Carnage]

I’m lucky, the only plane crash I’ve been on was twin engine general aviation. 3 fatalities was plenty chaotic on its own, even though everyone knew there was no patient care gonna happen. Can’t even imagine a passenger jet.

[u/Goddess_of_Carnage → u/Dugley2352]

Yikes, right?!

Nothing good happens when gravity wins.