To me it’s an example of training scars. I can imagine academy or training where there is a victim at the window and you get ripped for not having your ppe on, what if those gasses knock you out and make you a liability and another problem? However sometimes you gotta use common sense. Someone’s right there, make the grab obviously it was possible and practical. Also mask up faster
I was a cop. They used to tell us stories about dead cops with brass in their pants pockets or coat pockets because you revert back to muscle memory under stress. They were screamed at for dropping their brass on the ground at the range, so they put it in their pockets. Same idea here.
Same,,actually a cali state trooper was shot to death. In the academy they taught to take out both speed loaders (revolver days) out before reloading. Guy was killed in between getting both on car hood and picking the first one back up to actually reload.
In the this case zi would say the ff is already gonna get ripped for being in a high danger area without proper ppe. Might as well get a save cert to go with your safety write up.
Because they got screamed at for dropping their brass (spent shell casings, not the entire bullet) while at the training range.
Back in the revolver days, you shoot your 6 shots then empty the spent casings out onto the floor, or into your hand, and from your hand into your pocket so you don't have to pick them up later.
They realized this wasn't good because in real world shooting instances, the cops were doing the same thing, instead of focusing on reloading, they were focusing on putting the brass in their pocket.
The specific event referenced is the 1970 Newhall, CA shooting that resulted in the deaths of 4 officers. It was stated for a while that one officer had a training habit that resulted in him wasting time putting spent brass in his pocket instead of dropping and reloading. This led to new training techniques that reflect realism.
Little fun fact about that though; further investigation into the shootout suggests that the "pocketed brass" thing never happened.
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u/catfishjohn69 2d ago
To me it’s an example of training scars. I can imagine academy or training where there is a victim at the window and you get ripped for not having your ppe on, what if those gasses knock you out and make you a liability and another problem? However sometimes you gotta use common sense. Someone’s right there, make the grab obviously it was possible and practical. Also mask up faster