r/Gintama 3d ago

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u/The_Colectionist 3d ago

Well, Gintama always has a reflection or lesson in its arcs and stories, as well as Gintoki being relatable as hell, but at the same time holding great wisdom. And it's not just "You'll succeed through perseverance and a kind heart" like almost every other shonen. Ofc, I am biased, I have reframed my life a couple several times watching Gintama.

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u/Giant_Serpent23 3d ago

If you are gonna fantasize about a beautiful death, why not live beautifully till the end.

I’ll bring you that rope. I have no intention of bringing you a rope to hang yourself, but if it’s a rope to pull you out of hell. I’ll bring as many as you want.

I see, humans are hollow beings, it’s because they know that and take root in the hearts of others, never fading even after death and can live forever, is it?

Wait no, the most important lesson is that living is a pain. We should wish to be a cheesecake.

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u/The_Colectionist 3d ago

This is never directly said in the anime or manga (I think), but I learned it from the anime... I wont try to put it in corny words because Im not good at that but basically the idea that even in our worst times, you're still allowed to enjoy yourself, you don't have to be all gloomy 100% of the time.

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u/ArcaneKeyblade5 3d ago

The quote that means the most to me

"Before dawn, the night is darkest. But keep your eyes open, keep them open no matter how dark the night ahead may be. If you avert your eyes from the dark, you'll be blind to the rays of a new day".

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u/KingKongShrest 2d ago

My absolute favorite sayings ever

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u/ConnectionIcy3717 3d ago

Is there a link for this? I remember Gorilla-sensei winning best mangaka awards for many years too

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u/fwouedd 3d ago

MADAO way of life.

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u/Focari_Sweat 3d ago

Gintama altered my humor

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u/SecretKnowledge7005 zura janai katsura da! 3d ago

So real, I used to laugh very rarely but now I laugh a lot more and am more expressive thanks to Gintama

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u/HistoricalVacation82 3d ago

G in Gintama stand for GOAT

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u/SecretKnowledge7005 zura janai katsura da! 3d ago

Goatama

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u/thunderthief5 2d ago

I say this to everyone I have a conversation with about anime, Gintama is the best piece of work that I’ve ever watched. It affected me in ways nothing else ever did. It makes you laugh, smile and tear up and if nothing just helps you relax. Nothing comes close. I can pick a random episode after a long day and be sure that I’d enjoy watching it. It’s a sad thing that many people actually don’t know about it.

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u/Marcos-Am 3d ago

baruto?

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u/Ok-Cap2257 3d ago

Burrito

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u/amidamarloes 2d ago

Bertoto?

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u/Niceguy188 2d ago

Hey, Itachi's story was an inspiration for me. Screw Botuto

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u/Vfour86 3d ago

Base as hell

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u/CHANGnosia 3d ago

Honestly? Same

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u/Hsiang7 3d ago

The survey was from 2018 apparently, 7 years ago before the series ended.

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u/inquiringdune 2d ago

Based. I'd vote the same. Gintama is incredibly special. The message is basically "live your life no matter what it looks like to other people". You don't have to be the smartest or the strongest or the most ambitious person to matter, to have fun, to live a full and meaningful life. Its about kindness and an optimistic willingness to help other people. I'm not sure there will ever be another series that captures the full spectrum of the human condition quite like Gintama.

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u/Peace401 2d ago

This is so real, Gintama and Haikyu have genuinely shaped me as a person. Haikyu still continues to inspire me and motivate me in general, and Gintama is well just Gintama, I can't really explain it but it kinda made me realize the kind of person I wanted to be and that it's okay to be who I am

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u/Spare_Ad267 2d ago

Gintama really is life changing. My younger sibling watched anime but never wanted to watch any that was over 150 episodes. So even though Naruto was her first anime she never finished it. But as soon as I showed Gintama to her she got hooked. She’s not finished yet but she still watches. Gintama might be the first anime longer than 150 episodes that she’ll finish.

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u/HarpoonTheBlueWhale 4h ago

Is Gintama even considered a shonen? I just never thought of it as one.

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u/Drake5323 3d ago

Vinland Saga is #1 for me

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u/YoshidaShouyo 3d ago edited 3d ago

Anime or manga can't change your life. 

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u/The_Colectionist 3d ago

Well, of course, if you just consume everything mindlessly, with no consideration to the imagery and words being communicated to you, yeah, I can see how it can go over your head. What the hell are you even doing here

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u/[deleted] 3d ago

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u/The_Colectionist 3d ago

how? Just for the hype moments?

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u/The_Colectionist 3d ago

TMI, I dont even know what is vinland saga or whatever you said, I cant find your comment, I will assume you deleted it, but you sure said a lot of things I dont care about and I dont see how they're relevant. You clearly said that anime or manga cannot affect anyone's life, then ofc you're now getting burned by the community so you backtracked your sentiment to "can't change anyone's life *radically*" But I still disagree. A piece of fiction, whatever it is, manga or not, can change lives, from very small changes to radically, specially when it's aimed at the developing youth, like shonen is...Hell, living beings will change for no fucking reason at all, we will change because we wanted to change, because we didnt want to change, because we wanted to find out who we were, because the fucking dentist cancelled our appointment, for anything. If youve been struggling with a personal issue and then a random anime youre watching happens to touch upon that issue and make a reflection upon it, you might change.

Idk why I bother, I get the feeling you're just very pretentious and dont even mean what you say, just want to feel superior or something idk, you're glue and Im rubber bah

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u/The_Colectionist 3d ago

I still can't see your comments, only the preview. But no, me not having the same likes as you does not make me inferior or less intelligent, and I didn't call you a shallow reader or whatever, I basically implied that the reason you cannot see the possible impacts of a piece of fiction is because you dont think too much about what you consume. And I do know what is a slice of life is, I just have no idea what were those titles you were throwing around, but I do know the genre. (Little secret: It's not exclusive to manga/anime).

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u/YoshidaShouyo 3d ago

Of course you don’t have to share the same tastes as me. But then why do you mockingly say things like ‘Do you watch Gintama just for the hype scenes?’ when I mention I’m a fan of it?

If I were only into a series for the ‘hype’ scenes, would that series really be Gintama?

I’m also someone who’s interested in writing as an amateur, and I can be influenced by what I watch and read. But changing your life is a different matter—that’s all I was saying. Does saying ‘anime can’t change your life’ suddenly mean I don’t reflect on what I watch?

I don’t care about getting bashed, and I haven’t deleted my comments either.

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u/The_Colectionist 3d ago

Gintama is in big chunks parodies from other media, it is a lot of the time, a condensed time capsule of everything that was going on in Jump at the time. If you dont fw that, as in, if you view any of that media or even Gintama itself, as inferior to every other media form that IS capable of making someone think, therefore have the capacity to impact their minds...Im getting tangled here, but you surely see what Im getting at? Further its a deeply philosophical manga/anime, at least relatively, it is actively proposing ways of viewing the world, but you just dont fw with any of that and you're a fan because?

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u/Gintama-ModTeam 2d ago

Please be respectful in your comments. Bashing people/content will not be tolerated and will result in either a suspension or a ban.

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u/MuscleManssMom ketsuno ana 3d ago

The headline is obviously hyperbolic because that's what people do on the internet but people can absolutely take some form of inspiration from things:

Just a little slow on the uptake, eh?

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u/Giant_Serpent23 3d ago

It probably just means it was a small step to make them who they are today, in some way.

Whatever small way it is, it was never said that it had to be a big change.

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u/YoshidaShouyo 3d ago

No.

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u/Giant_Serpent23 3d ago

So if you watched a sports anime, you couldn’t get slightly influenced to get into that sport? Maybe watch it and learn that you do like it?

Anime and manga are just a medium afterall, people are inspired by TV and movies all the time, whether it be real people or fictional. They could very well say that what they watched left such a lasting impression on them and is the reason they are doing what they do today. Anime and manga are no different in that case.

Hell author’s making their series are actively changing their life by making that series, if it happens to be a manga then it changed their life.

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u/ConnectionIcy3717 3d ago

There are real life examples of this with Andreas Iniesta and Killian Mbappe both World Cup winners inspired by Captain Tsubasa and Whistle respectively

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u/YoshidaShouyo 3d ago

yeah you're right. without tsubasa-san, mbappe is nothing.

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u/YoshidaShouyo 3d ago

No.

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u/StickMick01 3d ago

The wisdom in your mind is surely shining from below to above. Truly the enlightened one.

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u/Bay-Sea 3d ago edited 3d ago

The poll is about what anime is inspiring.

Although everyone doesn't react the same way, any form of media could be influential.

Manga and anime are just different forms of storytelling

EDIT: "This changed my life" is just a common phase for a catalyst for self-improvement than literally changed one's life.

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u/NocPrinceofDarkness 3d ago

Oda literally changed his life because of One Piece.

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u/YoshidaShouyo 3d ago

Dont include those who just rip off otakus and make money pal.

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u/NocPrinceofDarkness 3d ago

How about Voice Actors, Manga/Anime companies, Assistant Editors, Animators, Cosplay winners?

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u/smartlog 3d ago

Better stories than the Bible. I mean that never changed anyone's lives either.

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u/YoshidaShouyo 3d ago

Yesu desu yo

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u/smartlog 3d ago

Anata wa kuzu da yo. I learned that from anime too.

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u/Knuckleheaded-beardo 3d ago

Couldn't agree with you more.