He could have hit her in the wrong way and killed her. That was a serious "I will fucking end you," punch; it was not a "Don't slap me again or you'll regret it," punch.
Cops are allowed to punch people to gain compliance if they don't have any other good alternatives. He isn't going to taser her and accidentally miss and hit his friends or a bystander.
She slapped him once, and given her position she couldn't use her body to put a lot of power into the blow. That one woman could absolutely have been properly restrained without punching her in the face.
You’re fighting the same side of the argument here.
They were trying to not restrain her and trying to minimally handle the situation from the start, which is the right thing to do. They probably first asked her to walk out on her own, then instead of handcuffing her in front of everyone they were going to carry her out.
Everything was being done as minimally as possible, which is what you’d probably want, until she started to slap cops.
You can’t have it both ways man. You’d probably be on your high horse bitching about how excessive their force was if she resisted putting handcuffs on in front of a crowd and had to pin her to the ground to properly restrain her in front of everyone.
Nope, because restraining an unruly drunk in order to put on cuffs is a proportional response. Punching her in the face while she's being carried is not.
Not everything is about being morally superior. Sometimes people just see something and think it's not okay.
These people see a pretty lady being punched, not a belligerent drunk dumbass causing problems and assaulting police officers. People here are too up their own ass. I guarantee they would react differently than they expect if they got slapped in the face trying to detain some drink idiot.
They don't have time. They are completely surrounded by drunk men that might turn on them in a matter of seconds. They are basically outnumbered and have to get the fuck out as fast as possible.
So restrain her lmao, she's not going to restrain herself.
Disgusting that people think that punch was an appropriate response, and goes a long way towards explaining why some police think that stuff like this is okay.
It’s disgusting that you’re so anti-cop that you can’t read the part of a two sentence response that literally said they shouldn’t have hit her like that. I clearly stated that I️ don’t think that was an appropriate response, and I️ clearly don’t think stuff like this is Ok, but you’re turning my my “She was not restrained” fact into some grand epidemic idea about pro-cop shit across the United States.
Yeah! For all we know, the chick was an undercover cop, the cops were ISIS, AND she put a tracker on his head!
See how dumb it is just to pull shit out of thin air like that? Everything a sane person needs to know about this clip can be gathered with no additional fantasies to support your violent narrative.
If your natural reaction to having to do your damn job is to forget your training and revenge punch drunk women, you don't deserve to wear a badge. Simple as that.
I️ didn’t see the beginning of the video, but odds are she didn’t comply with the first request of walking out. That was step one of not trying to restrain her and using excessive force.
And before they started to slap her they were also not using excessive force.
The man hit her far too hard and should not have done that, which I️ already stated. She was not restrained though, which was my original comment.
I’m not sure why people think I’m doing anything other than saying they should not have hit her that hard and stating a fact about her not being restrained, but here we are.
I do cat scans. One drunk or drug addict after another some days, especially on the weekends. Sometimes you feel like slapping them but I always felt like they would just become more agitated. I never gave a thought to knocking them unconscious tho. Wait that wouldn't be ethical.
Ah alright, my bad man. I did hospital security for three years and our radiologist always helped if shit went down. I went through some of your comment history and it is clear that you don't have a great view of law enforcement. However, in this instance, they did not "fail" their job. Restraining a belligerent person, as you know, can be very difficult especially if that person is violent. Maybe the cop should not have retaliated and used force, but the use of force in this scenario is by law justified.
Ya you're right. it's nothing like the video. I can't just drag them from one place to another and knock them unconscious if they resist with no repercussions. I have to get them to hold perfectly still while their family members are standing in the background threatening to sue us if we do anything wrong. Not only do I have to restrain them, I actually have to care about them as a human being and realize that, while they brought it upon themselves, at the moment they're incapable of acting rationally and I need to protect them from hurting themselves or me. I don't get a paid vacation if I lose my temper because I took a little slap to the face. I lose my job. So gfy.
I mean how smart do you really need to be? And how fucking stupid do you have to be to retaliate that way because you failed at your job? The guy in the rear was suppose to be controlling her upper body. I hope the piece of shit that slapped her lost his job.
Seems like they stopped her. Just not as effectively as they could have if they weren't power tripping assholes who are themselves above the law. Sounds like you'd be a good candidate for a career in law enforcement.
Restrained to me is when it’s impossible to fight back; her arm was still free and she hit the cop.
Her legs were restrained, so she didn’t do any kicking, her arms were not.
I’m often against cop actions I see on reddit, this one I’m okay with.
I’ve yet to hear what these armchair cops like yourself would have done in the situation. Two days on the job and you’d probably be doing worse than this cop did.
Thats disingenuous. Lets be real here if this was a white cop and a black girl this conversation would very likely have to do with cops singling out black women.
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The same thing... Still a cop using excessive force on a person who is already restrained.