If you are being attacked and defending yourself, you’re not escalating the situation by promptly stopping it. You probably didn’t describe to him exactly what happened.
That girl was piss ass drunk and her weak slap must not have had a huge impact, when the cop hit her she got knocked out dude... Wtf are you saying?
It is categorically NOT excessive by any and every definition and interpretation of that word.
What would have been more excessive in this scenario, straight up blowing off her brains? I guess everything below that would have been ok with you... Wtf is wrong with people, straight up enjoying their violent justice boners...
Police around the globe are warranted and instructed to use one level of force above that of their opposition.
Even if a cop is entitled to use more force than needed, does not make it appropriate in every situation, she wasn't any real threat... She looks like a dumbass drunk adult teen... She had no guns or weapons...
Edit : I watched it a few more times and another reason for why she slapped the dude could be because she felt he touched her inappropriately by lifting her from the exposed area ( which I'm not even saying that, it was inappropriate, jus that she may have been too drunk to understand that, that was the best way to carry her out ). Still knocking her out was excessive.
Doesn’t matter. If someone is trying to hurt police it’s only reasonable they are at a minimum allowed to slap back, as is the right of any citizen.
What would have been more excessive in this scenario, straight up blowing off her brains? I guess everything below that would have been ok with you... Wtf is wrong with people, enjoying straight up violent justice boners...
Not what would have been more excessive, the question you want to ask is what would have been excessive. Answer to that would’ve been repeated punching, a body slam, use of baton, pepper spray or taser.
Even if a cop is entitled to use more force than needed, does not make it appropriate in every situation, she wasn't any real threat... She looks like a dumbass drunk adult teen... She had no guns or weapons...
Not entitled to use more force than needed. Entitled to use the force required. If someone is attacking you, you don’t give them an even playing field. I’m going to assume you’re talking about the one level of force above thing, to which I’ll respond that luckily he did not go one step above, he responded with an equal level of force. Which is good, because this dumbass drunk adult teen will then hopefully learn she doesn’t get away with such nonsense.
That wasn't a slap, that was a straight up knockout pummeling... You need to get yourself checked, you have sociopathic tendencies.
Not what would have been more excessive, the question you want to ask is what would have been excessive. Answer to that would’ve been repeated punching, a body slam, use of baton, pepper spray or taser.
No I wanted to ask exactly what I wanted to, because I felt what he did was already excessive. I don't know maybe it might have been necessary but it's not pretty to look at... And definitely not something to be excited about.
It's obstruction. If he didn't do anything she would have just kept going. You have to neutralize the threat. Given they should have cuffed her at the time but their job is to get them out asap, cuff em when you're not surrounded by hundreds of people because you don't know who is in that crowd or what they're gonna do (if they choose to help her)
Yeah it may have been a little excessive but like you said, he could have blown her brains out instead.
Given they should have cuffed her at the time but their job is to get them out asap, cuff em when you're not surrounded by hundreds of people because you don't know who is in that crowd or what they're gonna do (if they choose to help her)
That seems reasonable because I was wondering why they didn't cuff her in the first place. Shit though, I think I heard the smack through the gif...XD I hope she's ok though. You're drunk and you do stupid things...no need to wish any harm on her...was my point
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he could have blown her brains out instead.
This was just in reference to the guy (not you toki) whom I was originally replying to that seemed to have no clear definition of excessive force other than that, even as I read his replies now, I see his violent justice boner hasn't yet been sated and still feels that it would have been ok to "body slam" her for that. Never seen someone wishing harm on a random drunk person they saw in a gif.
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