Absolutely not. She should been put in a down prone position and restrained with her hands behind her back. They had enough officers to do this safely, although I'm unsure if they have a flat surface to do it. You need... at least 3-4 officers to do this safely.
I'm not sure why they did this. I assume this was not the first unruly drunk they have pulled out, and I'm guessing they don't have great training.
A cop isn't a jury or judge, he's doing his fucking job,
Exactly. hes doing his job, the thing hes getting paid to do. Which means you are being paid to deal with such cases in a professional way.
Do you think hitting someone in the face is a professional response to restraining a drunk person? Here at least, such a police officer would probably receive serious dressing down for doing such a shit job, but then we don't have America's insane cop culture.
No where else would the consequences be being decked in the face.
The officers failed to restrain her. So not only did they fail to do their job properly, they also failed the response when the botched job they were doing went wrong. Did you even notice that after he decked her, they just moved her down a bit and one of the guys easily grabber her arms.
Anywhere else, that police officer would at least get probation for such actions. Its really bizzare you are defending this so hard.
A.) Don't be stupid fucking idiots with a max high school education and some academy training and try to carry drunk people however the fuck they were trying to do it.
They all deserved are sharp slap, maybe they'll remember how to properly subdue the drunk and disorderly afterwards.
So if you go out to party, meet someone who is extremely intoxicated, to the point they can barely stand, and they slap you... your immediate response is to punch them in the face?
Never mind whether you are a cop and dealing with such situations is your entire job...
Punches against the temple do not require much force to kill someone. This punch, upwards, could break her nose and shove the fractured bones into her brain. She could have held her head sideways, exposing her neck to serious danger. She could have bitten off her tongue. She could have swallowed her tongue. A punch against the head is always dangerous.
Nah it was on here a few weeks ago that a punch to the head can kill you and that's all anyone here is circle jerking about any more. While it does happen, it's not like the standard. And people who get in fights often can't talk about it without someone who's an expert on these sorts of things coming in and sharing their anecdote of their friend who doesn't remember how to tie her shoes because she got punched just once that one time.
When you are drunk, your body doesn't tense up and resist the momentum of impact, which is why you see drunks survive terrible accidents that kill the sober people involved.
So they should have arrested her? You think she wouldn’t have resisted that? Lol do you know the whole story? I’m pretty sure they started with “let’s escort you out” and that didn’t bode well with her which led to this situation
A single punch is no where near excessive force. Excessive force for that would be pepper spray, tased, or a ground takedown. That officer was well within the use of force continuum for a drink person attacking him.
I‘ve lived in three different European countries before I moved to the US. In all three of those countries the cop would face consequences for unnecessary use of violence against a civilian. I’m not saying cops should just take whatever comes their way, but if you become a cop, you should definitely expect to be in a scenario like this and your job is to handle it professionally. It’s almost exclusively an American mentality that if you come in contact with cops, brutality and physical assault have to be expected. That’s insane. This woman was no threat, 4 cops did already contain her, the punch in the face served absolutely no purpose besides venting anger.
I didn’t say police don’t use violence, they do, and if you’re a danger to the public you’ll definitely get a can of whoopass, but video evidence of a policeman punching a drunken woman in the face with full force as retaliation to a slap would get the cop fired and you a solid law suit.
Yeah but that mentality is probably why the US is so fucked at the moment, having cops turn around and smack people back makes people think it's the right thing to do. While yeah you can say she deserves it, but it should be the cop who rises above that. As so many people in the US seem to share the mentality of revenge and defence almost any issue can escalate dramatically, as seen here.
It's hardly blaming the cops, but their in a position of authority and many people look up to them and so responsibility on showing how to act in public falls on them in situations like these.
She was already gonna be charged with assault for being disrespectful (probably claim she spit and they felt "treated") might as well have fun with it.
You're lowering the bar and suggesting that cops should not be held to a higher standard than a drunk sports fan. Why was the cop being as childish as the drunk woman? Why wasn't he the adult and not escalate the situation?
I'm thinking about the logistics of three of those cops restraining her while the other puts her in cuffs and it looks a hell of a lot safer than whatever crowdsurfing bullshit they decided to go with.
I'm curious what your mental image of the cuffing scenario looks like.
Amazing false equivalence you've got there. So from your first example, can you show me the people saying that drunk drivers and drunk rapists should be punched in the face by cops?
If you are old enough to drink, you are responsible for your actions when drunk. If you attack a cop, expect to get hit back. I know this is hard for you to understand, since this isn't your liberal arts college safe-space.
That doesn't put the cop in the right. You are responsible for your actions when you're drunk, and this lady would take that responsibility in the form of legal reprecussions for that action.
I know this is hard for you to understand, since all the the blood that should be going to your tiny brain is flooding to your shameful justice-boner.
Actually it does, cops are free to retaliate when hit, it's not like he tazed this broad, he just smacked her back.
I know it must have been hard for you to watch since it wasn't a re-run of My Little Pony, but interpersonal violence can be expected during episodes of drunk imbecility.
If you truly, honestly believe that that was a reasonable amount of force, then you're more of a neanderthal than I thought.
Reasonable people would hold a trained cop to higher standard then a drunken, flailing mess of a person. I know that's gotta be tough for you to process, since you share about the same level of intellect as that drunken, flailing mess. Go back to your cave.
Why do people think they can break down a video and assume they can do a cops job better? If a situation gets escalated with violence you can expect a person to react accordingly. Cops need to protect themselves, it is fucking hard to put cuffs on someone not wanting to be cuffed. Did you notice how it takes 4 grown ass men to move her ass out of there? But sure, let's put it all on the cop who punched her because he "should have cuffed her instead".
I don't think you know what you're talking about either, rent-a-cop. It's guys like you that pass tests and get a badge and are the real issue with American police work that has us living in a pseudo police state. I know that with 4 large buddies, a mostly passed out 160, or even 200 pound MAN wouldn't be that hard to subdue, let alone a chick.
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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '17 edited Nov 05 '17
Use of excessive force is the problem, they should have put her in cuffs / restrained her... rather than do whatever the fuck they were trying to do
Seriously though WHAT are they even doing