The message that cops can hit non cops is the cause of all the cop hate in this country, which is the cause of the fear cops have when going into a situation, which leads to violence on both sides, but mostly violence from the cops. Dirty assholes.
cops can hit non cops is the cause of all the cop hate in this country
Isn't their job specifically to detain non-cops 99.99% of the time?
Poorly phrased sentiment- would it be okay for a cop to hit a cop then?
Ultimately you're responsible for drinking, so you're responsible for what you do when you're drunk. When you set the precedent that people can get away with shit by being intoxicated you undermine the justification for DoI laws.
She assaulted a police officer while being detained, she gets none of my sympathy.
...that people can get away with shit by being intoxicated...
Literally no. Not at all what I'm saying. Ever heard of due process? Pressing charges? Criminal record? Yea, those things...remember those? The justice system, exists literally so that people cannot get away with shit by being intoxicated.
She assaulted a police officer while being detained, and charges should be pressed. What should not have happened was whatever that dickhead piece of shit cop was thinking when he laid his whole bodyweight into her face through his fist.
There are four of them, if they can't even detain a single tiny drunk white girl without resorting to punching her in the face so hard she gets knocked out and almost get her head dropped 6 feet onto concrete, maybe they shouldn't be cops...
My instinct would have caused me to reach for her flailing arm. You know, to protect myself from her arm, which she was swinging wildly. Her face wasn't the part of her body that was attempting to slap me, I wouldn't have reached my arm out to deck her in her face. I would have reached my arm out to grab her arm, the arm that was hitting my head.
You were just backhanded, are facing away from the attacker, and see her face before anything else as you turn around.
What are the chances you are going to catch that arm before she backhands you again or pokes your eye out?
Better yet, what are the chances you actually paid attention to the video?
He would have had to drop her to turn around to get to her swinging arm with his free arm, or waited for her to swing a THIRD time and hope to catch her arm if it passed in front of him.
Seriously, did you even pay attention to the video? Or are you just here for the band wagon?
She was attacking someone from behind and full on backhanded him. You need to watch the video again.
You don't try to apprehend someone is seats in a crowd like that. It is just stupid to think that is an option. The cops would be surrounded by unruly drunks with no one watching their backs.
Why should they have to take all the risk if they are not the unruly drunk randomly backhanding people?
It's not that cops shouldn't be allowed to hit someone when they need to, it's more that they should have the training and discretion to know how much force is needed for a given situation.
So you're okay with cops being allowed to assault whoever they want, with as much force as they want, just because you don't believe you'll have to deal with it personally?
This is where we disagree. In my opinion, cops should be held to some kind of standard. Especially when this particular cop could have done several things that would have been less harmful to the woman, less harmful to his fellow cops, and easier for him. On top of that, if we allow cops to be brutes and force their will on people with the slightest provocation, then all we do is 1) attract assholes to the police force, and 2) make people scared of cops, which is the opposite of what should happen. Cops should be level headed, not fucking explosively violent and waiting for a spark
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u/irishbosworth Nov 05 '17
Did she deserve it? Maybe she deserves an additional charge or something, but let's be honest, that cop reacted out of anger, not of any moral stance.