It might have been a fair response by your average man or woman in the street but a police officer is supposed to be more professional.
You start condoning police officers for lashing out because someone's made them angry then where does it end? Before you know it you'll have them shooting people for dubious reasons.
How would you feel if he'd taken his gun out and shot her? Or cracked her head open with his baton? Or knocked her teeth out and broken her jaw with that punch?
Which level of violent response are you willing to accept?
Holy shit you really think this cop is such a tea leaf that this drunk girl could have possibly injured him? It was obviously a retaliation strike that was unnecessary.
I think his point was that the girl could not have possibly injured the police officer. She could barely slap him. He was not in danger. Grab her fucking arm for christssakes.
My point is she did. And he’s allowed to match the force and subdue the suspect. Which he did. With non lethal force. Doesn’t matter if she could’ve hurt him or not. He could’ve tazed her ass too. That would’ve been fine. He stopped the situation cold.
I just don't think she hit him that hard. Hell, she missed the slap and came back around with her hand and that's what smacked his face. Geez, put her down and cuff her.
So your answer is it was too difficult for two police officers to restrain a 5-foot tall woman with handcuffs because she was drunk and surrounded by seated people in a crowd, so since it was too difficult they're allowed to just swing wildly hoping that the connect with only her in said crowd?
You understand your justifications for their use of force are the same reasons why they shouldn't have used them? What if this now not restrained and angry escalated women we just got punched in the face,and her boyfriend who might respond to this violence, react violently In This Crowd to these two police officers? Now she's donkey kicking heads because she's trying to get out cuz she just got punched sound so much better.
The problem is your assumption that policing works like TV violence where a single Punch To The Head knock somebody out for an extended period of time and they just give up. That punch to the face likely just made her very angry and temporarily stunned. She could have immediately gone back to flailing after the video cut out and because the officers didn't respond by Descalation and restraint, they've have done nothing to prevent it.
I completely agree. She may have been drunk but that's her fault. She was assaulting that officer and he had a right to self defense just as any other person in that stadium. Cop or no. He didn't attack her and shove a plunger handle up her ass and beat her with a baton. Bottom line... Don't hit people.
She hit him, he hit her. You're drastically overblowing things. Especially with police using their guns, there is clearly defined protocol as to when it's appropriate to use that kind of force. If those protocols aren't followed, I'm against it. There has to be a level of personal responsibility however. Both of them are in the wrong, but I don't feel bad for her.
No I'm just trying to see what level of force people are willing to accept.
You may call it 'appropiate' but I don't. He could have quite easily grabbed her arm but he didn't because he wanted to hit her for hitting him. That's not 'apropiate force', that's lashing out or dishing out your own brand of justice. It's unprofessional. It's a slippery slope.
You let little instances of excessive force go and where does that lead? Before you know it you'll have the police shooting people without just cause. And we wouldn't want that to happen, would we...?
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u/UnlimitedOsprey Nov 05 '17
Bullshit. If you don't want to be hit, don't strike first. Bitch is an idiot and that's a fair response by the cop.