I don’t know why people are celebrating this. A cop‘s job isn’t to retaliate against people. They’re supposed to contain people and enforce the rules, not to punch people in revenge. American cops are trained to use violence in any scenario no matter how big the actual threat is and I don’t think that’s good.
Edit: Many people arguing that if you slap a cop, you should definitely expect police brutality. Definitely not. You should expect consequences, not to be knocked the fuck out. You should expect the cop to handle this situation professionally, not to get into a brawl with a drunken woman. You should expect the cop to be the moral authority he‘s supposed to be, not to get on the level of a drunken person. You should expect the cop to make reasonable use of force to achieve his goal, not to deal out full force blows to the face in revenge for a slap. You should expect the cop to de-escalate the situation, not to turn up the violence. It’s worrisome how many people seem to just accept excessive and unreasonable use of violence, as long it’s a cop doing it.
I’m not sure people are celebrating it so much as they are saying “well what the fuck did you expect when you hit a cop?”
Edit: By saying it should be expected, I’m not defending his actions as reasonable or holding them up as good policing practice. I think American police culture is too quick to resort to violence and is horrible at de-escalating situations. But, that all goes into why I said it should be expected. I’m not saying it should be accepted or condoned, only that I fully expect an American cop to hit you back if you hit them.
She obviously wasn't complying so they had to carry her... then she hits a cop who was nice enough to carry her out instead of forcefully restraining her on the stairs. So no... fuck this drunk ass
She was being drunk and belligerent and deserved to spend the evening in the drunk tank.
Dude needs better self control if he's gonna wear a gun and badge, that simple. How long til he kills someone for pissing him off and disrespecting his authoritah?
My mom was a 50-something-belligerent drunk who had the cops called on her. [Edit: for context since this is blowing up: she was drunk and walked to the corner store. She got in a verbal altercation with someone who had parked in the handicap spot. That person wanted to make sure she made it home safe, so he followed her home. She called the police to report a strange man following her home. He had already called the police because he was concerned she wouldn't make it home safely. End edit] She could not have hurt a fly, she just didn't have the muscle mass. They beat the fuck out of her. I still remember the pics of her bruises, I thought she literally had necrosis she was so dark purple. They broke bones.
My mom almost certainly started it. She almost certainly said something she shouldn't have.
I think we need to pay cops more, and give them more vacation and trianing (and yes, I'll pay more in taxes for this), because their jobs are fucking hard. And I don't wantn them working when they're super stressed out.
They need to be above beating people up to get them to comply, and absolutely above retaliation, which should be treated as a new crime IMHO.
Just because you're an asshole to cops (up to and including some physical abuse), they should have the training and tools to be able to take you into custody without physical harm caused by them.
Half of the reason it’s a problem at all is a lack of training IMHO. You can’t expect the officer to de escalate a situation if you’ve never given them the training to do so. Same goes for appropriate use of force. Most of it comes down to what you can’t do when it should be why you can’t do certain things and what you should do instead. I don’t know why we’ve allowed this to become such a problem...
I don't think most people have any clue what constitutes the right training because they're not in a position to be involved with violent people on a regular basis. If a threat is presented, it needs to be neutralized. He used a non-lethal unarmed technique. I don't know where so many people get off thinking cops are supposed to know all this Enter The Dragon karate bullshit that allows for no one to get hurt. It's not realistic.
We should also require cops to have a 4 year college degree to go along with the higher pay. This kind of negative cop behavior goes down with the more education they have.
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u/toeofcamell Nov 05 '17
Dude with the Bud Light was like, oooh snap, don't smack cops, got it