She obviously wasn't complying so they had to carry her... then she hits a cop who was nice enough to carry her out instead of forcefully restraining her on the stairs. So no... fuck this drunk ass
So if you are swinging at a cop s/he should allow you to strike them or keep their distance until you calm down and then have the judge add to your sentence?
Or should s/he tase your ass so you can be properly restrained without any injury to the officer?
Yeah it's the second one. This "punishment by cop" red herring is laughable. This isn't punishment by cop, it's self defense in the course of restraining a suspect.
I get the feeling there is a lot of white-knight virtue signaling going on in this thread. If this was a guy, I doubt this comment section would have half the objections of this one, and they'd still be wrong.
If 4 people can’t restrain you then you need to be put in handcuffs. It’s what they were invented for. They subdue a threat. If the officers didn’t asses her as a threat then that’s on them. It’s excessive force no matter how you look at it.
No it's not, they were getting her away from the banister she was clinging to, so they could handcuff her. She assaulted an officer and he moved to incapacitate her until she could be controlled.
If they got her off the banister they could have put her on her stomach and cuffed her arms. There are 4 officers holding her. 3 of which are large men. A knee to her back would instantly incapacitate her and she could be removed effectively.
Amazing that these trained officers didn't know as much as random Redditors.
So when they pin her to the edge of a step on a concrete staircase with a knee in her back and crack her sternum, all the while with their backs to a crowd of unruly people surrounding them, you'll be satisfied? Rather than her getting a slap to settle her down so they can extricate her from the mob and restrain her on a flat floor in a more controlled space?
Nice hypothetical. Let’s play more what if’s. What if she pulled a gun out, because all Americans have guns right. We’re not playing in what ifs here. We saw what happened and it was improperly handled. Yes hindsight is 20/20. I’m saying from a stance of a trained officer they should know their options and how to handle this situation. There’s no reason an unruly patron that is being escorted by force should be allowed to have full control of her arms.
I see nothing wrong with how this was handled. Hindsight aside, people get tased, pepper sprayed and shot for resisting arrest, let alone aggravated assault against an officer. She was slapped because she was a danger to the officer, who was trying to get her to a safe place to cuff her. Your unwillingness to accept that is extremely beside the point. You have every right to be wrong.
“Slapped”. Way to minimize the situation. She was slugged in her jaw with a right hook. Possibility of a concussion for a limp wrists backhand. No it was not justified. I could be wrong... but I’m not. Violence is not the answer in this situation. From either party. But more so from an officer who only had his pride injured.
Way to exaggerate what was a blow delivered with arm only, no weight behind it, and without a closed fist. Christ you'd think he landed a haymaker with your drama
It's not because she's a lady. I would think this is bad with a guy also. Come on, 4 police officers unable to control one drunk person (and the fact she's a 60 kg person matter) is a shame. They have handcuff etc. They just handle it poorly and the guy's pride was affected. So he retaliated.
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u/panicky_in_the_uk Nov 05 '17
I'd expect that cop to grab my arm and restrain me so I wouldn't be able to hit him again.
Did she deserve that? Yes.
Does that make it ok? No.