r/HadToHurt Nov 05 '17

Drunk fan slaps a cop

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '17 edited Mar 18 '18

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u/EvryMthrF_ngThrd Nov 05 '17

The punch worked waaaay better than further restraining her.

And shooting her even moreso, so why shouldn't the officer have done that? Because that would be use of excessive force. As was the punch; police officers should be held to a higher standard of conduct - otherwise, they are just the Brute Squad running amuck. Good police officers practice (and are trained in the usages of) a technique called "de-escalation", not confrontation and aggression.

Also, your "distraction" - you do realise people have been killed from "just one punch", right? And that unconsciousness after a punch is a sign of possible severe brain trauma? Real life isn't like TV, where a person who gets knocked out just shakes it off afterwards - in real life, such injuries can have lasting, long-term consequences (just ask retired NFL players).

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u/[deleted] Nov 05 '17 edited Mar 18 '18

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u/EvryMthrF_ngThrd Nov 05 '17

Distraction strikes are well within an officers legal limitation...

You are correct, they are legal... in some jurisdictions. But not a moral one, and I'd also point out that, by your logic, if the officers had done a better job of restraint, the second slap would never have been thrown, either. And de-escalation is not applying greater force during a confrontation, but the minimum needed, ideally none. I think you have confused "what he can get away with legally" with "proper conduct of a police officer"; one leads to police brutality and oppression, the other to police officers who are respected and supported by their communities.

And yes, "distraction strikes" have criteria as well - one of the main ones being "as distraction for an officer to draw his firearm during a physical altercation". Forgot that part, didn't you?

Your firearm analogy attempt to justify police brutality as a "distraction strike" is... stupid.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17 edited Mar 18 '18

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u/EvryMthrF_ngThrd Nov 06 '17

Imagine how much you know about air field control, you know the same amount about police work.

Well, I wouldn't go that far, but you are correct - I don't have a great body of experience with police work... luckily I have access to two great primary sources: relatives who are a retired EMT and 911 dispatcher and a retired police officer, respectively.

And it's "air traffic controller"... fellow Redditor. Unless you meant in the general sense - which makes little sense. But I digress...

Now, cite your sources, or are we left to assume you "have no idea what you are talking about." :)

And leave your body parts out of this.

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u/[deleted] Nov 06 '17 edited Mar 18 '18

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u/EvryMthrF_ngThrd Nov 06 '17

Then I suggest she ask about the Fleeing Felon rule, force escalation and multiplication training, the 21 (or 17) foot rule and "use of force" guidelines.

And since you are getting your data second-hand, allow me to give you data on de-escalation. Happy reading.