r/HermanCainAward • u/yorugua • 15d ago
Meta / Other Exclusive: Medical journal rejects Kennedy's call for retraction of vaccine study
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/medical-journal-rejects-kennedys-call-for-retraction-vaccine-study-2025-08-11/105
u/WTF-Bacon_bacon 14d ago
As a scientist I get absolutely furious when this brain worm addled idiot with no background in science thinks he can critique peer reviewed studies.
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u/Rulmeq 14d ago
Do his actions in Samoa not count as a background in Science? Bad science admittedly, where they experimented on living children. At least it did result in vaccination becoming mandatory in Samoa in 2020, so there's that, but at the cost of 80 children's lives.
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u/Cultural-Answer-321 Deadpilled 💀 14d ago
Ah, I had forgotten all about this Josef Mengele aspirations and trial run.
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u/LaurenPBurka 15d ago
I had some vague notion that you got more aluminum exposure from deodorant. I wonder if he uses any.
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u/geekyCatX 14d ago
This, or from eating fish. Apart from the aluminum compounds that can be used as preservatives in some vaccines (not in preparations for children, not for years) being biochemically non-reactive and leaving our bodies exactly as they got in.
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u/ecafsub 14d ago
People get more aluminum from the environment. It’s literally everywhere, and the levels have nothing to do with industrialization.
In the Earth's crust, aluminium is the most abundant metallic element (8.23% by mass) and the third most abundant of all elements (after oxygen and silicon).
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u/CardonaldTrump 13d ago
Yes, but it's not in pure elemental form is it, it's tightly bound up in aluminium salts. Oxides, sulphides and so on. From which our puny human digestive acids cannot liberate it.
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u/bubleve Team Unicorn Blood 🦄 15d ago
An influential U.S. medical journal is rejecting a call from Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to retract a large Danish study that found that aluminum ingredients in vaccines do not increase health risks for children, the journal's editor told Reuters. Kennedy has long promoted doubts about vaccines' safety and efficacy... A recent media report said he has been considering whether to initiate a review of shots that contain aluminum, which he says are linked to autoimmune diseases and allergies.
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u/Equal_Memory_661 14d ago
He’s not a scientist! He’s a lawyer! Someone to tell him to STFD.
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u/LetterheadMedium8164 14d ago
Isn’t he also a serial philanderer whose wife committed suicide after reading his journal of misdeeds? Doesn’t that speak to his (lack of) integrity?
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u/EvenSpoonier 14d ago
Antivaxxers are essentially the kind of people who complain about novels and TV shows because their personal theories were wrong and they just can't HANDLE it, except they apply it to reality. No amount of proof will ever be enough for them, because that would requiring accepting that they, themselves, didn't comprehend reality intuitively.
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u/MariachiBoyBand 14d ago
They’re an emotionally stunted children wrapped in an adult and aging body. All their rhetoric is just emotionally charged stupidity, all based on fears and 0 objectivity.
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u/Rulmeq 14d ago
I think it's closer to the way we teach stuff. Like in primary school we present a simplified version of maths and science, take the model of the atom for example, the first time we introduce it to students we present it as a planetary model, with the nucleus as the planet, and the electrons as satellites, but then later in secondary perhaps they learn that was just a simplification, and they need to learn a new model, and then if they go to 3rd level, they learn that even that newer model wasn't enough.
So each time, these people who reached their peak in primary school just reject the newer information that makes their world more complicated than they could ever have imagined, so they just reject science because "science is always changing it's mind".
There's also people who stop learning at each level, and will confidently tell you that their model, or understanding of the topic is correct, because that's what they learned (they did their own research, etc)
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u/greenie4242 14d ago
I think you're onto something there. We were taught in high school (early 1990s for me) that men had XY chromosomes and women had XX chromosomes, but weren't taught that other combinations were common, or were told that other combinations were 'mutations'.
Some people I went to school with moved to America and started posting anti-vax and anti-trans propaganda on their social media, and when I questioned them about it they replied along the lines of, "You seem to have forgotten what we were taught in Year 8, men are XY and women are XX, that's a FACT."
At the time, if it was an exam question, we'd be marked wrong if we responded differently. We were taught how to get high marks in exams, not how real life works.
Most school textbooks at the time also stated that to be classed as a living organism something must 1) respond to stimuli 2) metabolise (eat/drink/breathe/photosynthesise) and 3) reproduce. This immediately led to homophobic comments in class, if they can't reproduce then they can't be classed as human beings etc. I questioned the teacher about it, asking what about people who were born infertile etc, but was only told "that's what you answer in the exam".
I knew at the time that these things were incredibly over-simplified, basically the textbooks were 'wrong' and it made me angry that they weren't explained better and that people were punished if they questioned 'the narrative' by providing more complex answers in exams.
I started visiting the library to learn much more about chromosomes and reproduction and realised how complex these things are, but most of the population isn't as nerdy as me so didn't read further into it.
People who went to church and were told that gay people were abominations were able to fall back on both the Bible and their oversimplified school textbooks as their 'proof' that homosexuality and trans people shouldn't exist, but if I explain to them that there are more combinations than XX and XY, they twist things around with mental gymnastics to say that "See, the textbooks are LYING to you!" which is hard to argue with. If the textbooks had simply said "The most common chromosome pairs are XX or XY but others exist" that would have been fine, but some textbooks stated that anything other than XX or XY was considered a mutation, which is technically correct but it's really not nice being called a "mutant" if you're born with those!
Far too many people these days don't read past headlines, and don't progress past the over-simplified ideas presented during primary and high school.
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u/greenie4242 14d ago
They're the kind of people who complain about novels and TV shows without reading or watching them though.
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u/MariachiBoyBand 14d ago
The fact this idiot is asking for a retraction is all you need to know of this incompetent administration.
A science denier, an antivaxer, slanderer, lying, manipulative son of a bitch in charge of HHS is a national embarrassment 🤦♂️
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u/Igno-ranter 14d ago
Just remember: "I don't think people should be taking medical advice from me."
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u/Hatecraftianhorror 13d ago
They have peer review. He has the opinion of a brain damaged junkie with no medial training.
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u/Perfect-Time-9919 13d ago
It's still shocking and astounding he's in that position. Of all the skilled, trained people kicked out of government positions for talentless, YouTube, podcast, conspiracy nutcases and talk show background, he's the scariest one to be in a such an influential government position to me.
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u/Maffs 15d ago
Why doesn’t this shitshow do what he said he would do and unfatten the populace instead of working on killing kids by not vaccinating them.