Migliore asburgo sacro romano imperatore, secondo voi qual è???

[u/Silver-Tumbleweed963]

ciao ragazzi, io qui sono nuovo, ma ne so abbastanza di Sacro Romano Impero e Asburgo (scusate per la presunzione). Ho una domanda per voi: qual è, secondo il vostro parere, il miglior asburgo in qualità di sacro romano imperatore (da federico III fino a Carlo VI, esclusi gli asburgo-lorena)??
Inizio io: secondo me Mattia I d'Asburgo. Ora voi direte: ma come?? non lo conosce quasi nessuno!!
Il motivo è perche la vita e la carriera di Mattia ricorda la vitaa di molti di noi: come molte persone, nasce svantaggiato non essendo primogenito (3° di 6 figli) e come tutti, inizia a commettere i suoi primi errori e fallimenti (il governatorato nei paesi bassi spagnoli). Ma dopo i fallimenti, si inizia a ottenere qualche vittoria (il concedimento dell'arciducato d'austria da parte del fratello Rodolfo II) e si migliora sempre di più, certe volte aiutato dagli amici (nelle sue decisioni politiche ed economiche fu spesso aiutato dal suo consigliere Klesl). Inoltre, come spesso accade, possono scoppiare litigi tra fratelli (scontro con il fratello Rodolfo II, malato mentalmente e instabile, per ottenere il trono imperiale) e, a volte, si può vincere (Anche se Rodolfo era riluttante, Mattia diventa capo ed erede della famiglia). Così, dopo molto tempo si arriva al proprio obiettivo (diventa imperatore nel 1612), ma col tempo si invecchia, e si muore (1619) e certe volte la morte non è molto ''pacifica'' (guerra dei trent'anni, scoppiata nel 1618).
So che molti non condivideranno il mio pensiero, ma ora voglio sapere la vostra!! qual è il vostro Asburgo Sacro Romano Imperatore preferito??

[u/Cultural_Act_8513]

English Version: Hi everyone, I'm new here, but I know quite a bit about the Holy Roman Empire and the Habsburgs (sorry for the presumption). I have a question for you: who, in your opinion, was the best Habsburg Holy Roman Emperor (from Frederick III to Charles VI, excluding the Habsburg-Lorraine dynasty)?

I'll start: in my opinion, Matthias, Holy Roman Emperor. Now you'll say: but how? Almost no one knows him!! (false, he just wasn't a good emperor.)

The reason is because Matthias's life and career resembles the lives of many of us: like many people, he was born disadvantaged, not being the firstborn (the third of six children), and like everyone, he began to make his first mistakes and failures (the governorship of the Spanish Netherlands). But after the failures, you begin to achieve some victories (the granting of the Archduchy of Austria by his brother Rudolf II) and you gradually improve, sometimes with the help of friends (his advisor Klesl often supported his political and economic decisions). Furthermore, as often happens, quarrels can break out between siblings (the clash with his mentally ill and unstable brother Rudolf II over the imperial throne) and, sometimes, you can win (Even though Rudolf was reluctant, Matthias became head and heir of the family). Thus, after a long time, you achieve your goal (he becomes emperor in 1612), but with time you grow old, and you die (1619), and sometimes death is not very "peaceful" (the Thirty Years' War, which broke out in 1618).

I know many will not share my opinion, but now I want to know yours!! Who is your favorite Habsburg Holy Roman Emperor?

[u/Silver-Tumbleweed963 → u/Cultural_Act_8513]

scusa, ma perchè hai copiato il mio post mettendo tra parentesi ''falso, semplicemente non è stato un buon imperatore.''. Vabbè, quindi, qual è il tuo asburgo imperatore del H.R.E. preferito??

[u/Cultural_Act_8513 → u/Silver-Tumbleweed963]

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[u/Silver-Tumbleweed963 → u/Cultural_Act_8513]

hmmm, vuoi che te lo dica in inglese??

[u/Cultural_Act_8513 → u/Silver-Tumbleweed963]

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[u/Silver-Tumbleweed963 → u/Cultural_Act_8513]

do you want me to ask you the question in English??

[u/Cultural_Act_8513 → u/Silver-Tumbleweed963]

Well its true everyone knows him but he hasn't been getting a lot of attention because he had a lack of power, being a weak emperor and being a bad one too. I did copy it because most people on this subreddit speaks english, so then I translate yours into english so most people can understand what you mean. And my favorite Habsburg emperor is obviously Charles V because he was a powerful emperor, doing a good job being a emperor, and also being in charge of 2 empires. Spanish Empire and Holy Roman Empire.

[u/So_Hanged → u/Cultural_Act_8513]

Yeah he was powerful, sadly his empire was create by his grandfather Maximilian I and he was weak in the internal religious conflicts of the HRE and the violence spanish conquistadores did to the indigineous people of south america. Don't forget that the Sack of Rome of the 1527 was cause by his incompetence in keeping his Landsknecht troops calm.

[u/Silver-Tumbleweed963 → u/Cultural_Act_8513]

I understand he was weak, but why was he bad? I'd be very happy if you could tell me why (and then, back to the original question, who is your favorite Habsburg Holy Roman Emperor?)

[u/Cultural_Act_8513 → u/Silver-Tumbleweed963]

because he was a weak and indecisive ruler who failed to prevent the outbreak of the Thirty Years' War. Plagued by internal conflicts within his own family and an empire that was already fractured by religious disputes, he lacked the authority and will to impose his own vision. And also being overshadowed by both Rudolf II and Ferdinand II.

[u/Silver-Tumbleweed963 → u/Cultural_Act_8513]

Yes, it's true, But he's still my favorite because of the growth he's undergone, despite being weak, indecisive, and, as you say, bad (even though I don't think he was, but it's a matter of point of view). So, who's your favorite Habsburg Holy Roman Emperor (from Frederick III to Charles VI, excluding the Habsburg-Lorraine dynasty)?

[u/So_Hanged]

Ciao. Prima volevo informarti che il tuo post è italiano e tristemente reddit è pieno di americani che conoscono solo una lingua, quindi in futuro per avere più risposte crea il post in inglese.

Per la tua domanda personalmente, da storico di tardo medioevo e prima epoca moderna la mia scelta è Maximilian I. È vero che egli non ha vinto molte guerre nella sua vita, però non si può nascondere il fatto che ha completamente rivoluzionato la politica interna Imperiale, ha dato vita ai temuti Lanzichenecchi e grazie alle sue politiche estere ha messo le fondamenta per il famoso impero Asburgico che i suoi discendenti, sopratutto suo nipote Carlo V, erediteranno.