r/IndoEuropean 21d ago

Indo-European migrations New preprint claims that the Rigveda and Mittani/Hurrian song (hymn to Nikkal) have the same cadence and are from the same musical foundation

What do you guys think?

Paper: https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202506.1669/v2

Not an expert but this seems like a stretch?

Also the author doesn’t seem to know that the Mitanni come from the steppe and not India, making him seem less credible.

The paper also in general doesn’t come off as professional.

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u/GlobalImportance5295 21d ago

how is it irrelevant when you are trying to counter that the mitanni may have been immersed in both BMAC and indian culture before migrating to Syria / Anatolia by offering absolutely no evidence. i have given you a stack of evidence against your theory that it is cut-and-dry. it is not as cut-and-dry as you assume

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u/UnderstandingThin40 21d ago edited 21d ago

You haven’t given a stack of evidence lol. Your evidence is a peacock seal and the whole Syrian /Indian elephant thing. I never said Mitanni were immersed in Indian culture, I said bmac I think they were. It’s called the Yaz and sapalli culture, which are a cultural fusion of bmac and andronovo / fedorovo. Bmac is not Indian culture (although there are some overlaps). I don’t think you understand fundamentally what I’m saying.

I said the evidence is stronger for one theory (Mitanni came from the steppe) than any theory that involves the Indian subcontinent. 

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u/GlobalImportance5295 21d ago edited 17d ago

steppe

bmac is not the steppe

Yaz and sapalli culture

also not the steppe, and associated with Iranian proper due to lake lack of burials

given a stack of evidence lol

https://old.reddit.com/r/IndoEuropean/comments/1mu0b54/new_preprint_claims_that_the_rigveda_and/n9g1vu6/

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u/UnderstandingThin40 21d ago

Sapalli and Yaz culture are a synthesis of steppe and bmac culture, it represents the steppe people migrating south. We already have concrete evidence that bmac and steppe mixed. From 2000-1500 bce, that is settled.

Yes, your comment is an asko porpola quote from a 2006 book, a Wikipedia link about elephants, and a quote from a source in 1981. As I said, if you think that’s a stack of evidence then clearly you don’t understand what that means lol

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u/GlobalImportance5295 21d ago

parpola is a 2020 article post-sanauli

you think that’s a stack of evidence then clearly you don’t understand what that means lol

you've literally provided none. you gave a murdered woman in a well, which offers no proof of the mitanni charioteers

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u/UnderstandingThin40 21d ago

Parpola doesn’t say the Mitanni came from India either, so that again proves my point lol. It’s very bizarre that you keep bringing up sources that help my theory. 

Yes we have a women dna sample in Syria with steppe dna exactly when the mitanni ruled the area. Thanks for confirming the evidence.

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u/GlobalImportance5295 21d ago

Parpola doesn’t say the Mitanni came from India either,

no one suggested this. strawman after strawman