r/IndoEuropean • u/UnderstandingThin40 • 21d ago

Indo-European migrations New preprint claims that the Rigveda and Mittani/Hurrian song (hymn to Nikkal) have the same cadence and are from the same musical foundation

What do you guys think?

Paper: https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202506.1669/v2

Not an expert but this seems like a stretch?

Also the author doesn’t seem to know that the Mitanni come from the steppe and not India, making him seem less credible.

The paper also in general doesn’t come off as professional.

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u/-Mystic-Echoes- 17d ago

Do you just make things up hoping it's true?

https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Horse-bones-from-Surkotada-in-Katchchh_fig1_237413669

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u/UnderstandingThin40 17d ago

Yes, that article / paper doesn’t confirm they are domesticated horse bones, thanks for proving my point lol 

One or two archeologists thinking they are domesticated horse bones doesn’t mean it has been confirmed considering other don’t think they are 

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u/-Mystic-Echoes- 17d ago

"Sharma’s well-known identification of horse remains (Fig. 1) at Surkotada (in Katchchh) was endorsed by the late Hungarian archaeozoologist Sándor Bökönyi, an internationally respected authority in the field; in 1991, taking care to distinguish them from those of the local wild ass ( khur ), he confirmed several of them to be “remnants of true horses,” and what is more, domesticated horses."

"Contemporary with the Harappan period, the culture of the Chambal valley (in Madhya Pradesh) was explored by the respected archaeologist M. K. Dhavalikar, with layers dated between 2450 and 2000 BCE. His observations are remarkable: Let us stress that just as at Surkotada, the horse at Kayatha was domesticated"

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u/UnderstandingThin40 17d ago

Yes and various scholars like don’t think they are domesticated horse bones, hence it is not settled or definitive. Once again thanks for confirming my point lol. 

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u/-Mystic-Echoes- 17d ago

Cite those scholars.

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u/UnderstandingThin40 17d ago

Ajita payel and Richard meadows 

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u/-Mystic-Echoes- 17d ago

Cite where they disagree

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u/UnderstandingThin40 17d ago

“ We went through each point that we had raised and in some cases agreed to disagree. He (i.e., Sándor Bökönyi) remained firmly convinced that there are the bones of true horse (Equus caballus) in the Surkotada collection, and we remain skeptical.”

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u/-Mystic-Echoes- 17d ago

In any event, this Surkotada specimen is the best case for a true horse based on size alone, although it is rather too slender for our taste to be a horse. We would rather err on the conservative side in this case and say specimen 2304 is probably from a large hemione.

This is what Meadow said about the horse bones at Surkotada. He clearly doesn't "disagree".

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u/UnderstandingThin40 17d ago

No lol, he clearly disagrees and doesn’t think they’re horse domesticated bones. He thinks they’re probably a large ass. He says that in the last sentence. Now I’m questioning if you have basic reading comprehension skills. 

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u/-Mystic-Echoes- 17d ago

Many don't think the steppe theory is true either, so it's definitive.

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u/UnderstandingThin40 17d ago

lol now you’re moving goalposts and shifting the convo, classic Reddit response 😂😂

Please continue to utilize your amazing debate skills at WhatsApp university 

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u/-Mystic-Echoes- 17d ago

Literally Just using your own logic

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u/UnderstandingThin40 17d ago edited 17d ago

You’re trying to change the subject at hand lol. So you agree it’s not definitive that they’re domesticated horse bones ?