New preprint claims that the Rigveda and Mittani/Hurrian song (hymn to Nikkal) have the same cadence and are from the same musical foundation

[u/UnderstandingThin40]

What do you guys think?

Paper: https://www.preprints.org/manuscript/202506.1669/v2

Not an expert but this seems like a stretch?

Also the author doesn’t seem to know that the Mitanni come from the steppe and not India, making him seem less credible.

The paper also in general doesn’t come off as professional.

[u/-Mystic-Echoes-]

"Sharma’s well-known identification of horse remains (Fig. 1) at Surkotada (in Katchchh) was endorsed by the late Hungarian archaeozoologist Sándor Bökönyi, an internationally respected authority in the field; in 1991, taking care to distinguish them from those of the local wild ass ( khur ), he confirmed several of them to be “remnants of true horses,” and what is more, domesticated horses."

"Contemporary with the Harappan period, the culture of the Chambal valley (in Madhya Pradesh) was explored by the respected archaeologist M. K. Dhavalikar, with layers dated between 2450 and 2000 BCE. His observations are remarkable: Let us stress that just as at Surkotada, the horse at Kayatha was domesticated"

[u/UnderstandingThin40 → u/-Mystic-Echoes-]

Yes and various scholars like don’t think they are domesticated horse bones, hence it is not settled or definitive. Once again thanks for confirming my point lol. 

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Cite those scholars.

[u/UnderstandingThin40 → u/-Mystic-Echoes-]

Ajita payel and Richard meadows 

[u/-Mystic-Echoes- → u/UnderstandingThin40]

Cite where they disagree

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“ We went through each point that we had raised and in some cases agreed to disagree. He (i.e., Sándor Bökönyi) remained firmly convinced that there are the bones of true horse (Equus caballus) in the Surkotada collection, and we remain skeptical.”

[u/-Mystic-Echoes- → u/UnderstandingThin40]

In any event, this Surkotada specimen is the best case for a true horse based on size alone, although it is rather too slender for our taste to be a horse. We would rather err on the conservative side in this case and say specimen 2304 is probably from a large hemione.

This is what Meadow said about the horse bones at Surkotada. He clearly doesn't "disagree".

[u/UnderstandingThin40 → u/-Mystic-Echoes-]

No lol, he clearly disagrees and doesn’t think they’re horse domesticated bones. He thinks they’re probably a large ass. He says that in the last sentence. Now I’m questioning if you have basic reading comprehension skills. 

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He says "conservative side", not liberal side. So even he is more open to it being a horse. Do you have reading comprehension?

His first sentence literally says it's a horse based on size alone.

[u/UnderstandingThin40 → u/-Mystic-Echoes-]

Even if he says he’s on the conservative side he clearly says he think it’s probable it’s an ass. Being open to it being a horse does not equate to more probable.

Also his first sentence doesn’t say that: “ In any event, this Surkotada specimen is the best case for a true horse based on size alone, although it is rather too slender for our taste to be a horse”

Best case for a true horse specimen does not equate to “it’s a horse based on size alone”.

Again another clear demonstration of a lack of reading comprehension. I don’t think you know what definitive means.

[u/-Mystic-Echoes- → u/UnderstandingThin40]

He thinks it's an hemione on the "conservative side"

Do you not understand basic English?

He's not against it being a horse.

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He thinks it’s more likely it’s an ass to a horse, yes. Thanks for confirming that haha. It’s clear you don’t know what on the conservative side means.

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Holy hell you are a terrible comprehender