r/IndoEuropean 19d ago

Mythology Note on Angaros, in Montgomery's 'Aramaic Incantation Texts from Nippur' (GW Brown, 1921)

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u/Subject_Diver_1043 16d ago

How does this square timeline wise given that Nippur was destroyed/abandoned by 1800BC which is the time the Indo-Aryans are reported to be entering the indian subcontinent? This predates even the Mitanni(1500-1300BC) Did this come from BMAC area? If so , before India?

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u/GlobalImportance5295 16d ago

sorry for not clarifying this. these "incantation bowls" were made during the time Persianate-Hellenism was a driving force of Mesopotamia even among the descendants of the various semitic religions. many of these inscriptions are dated to the Sassanid period. I'm not sure if any of these inscriptions are found in BC so don't quote me, but they are mostly dated to early AD. we see hellenism incorporating buddhism, but we rarely see hellenism incorporating hints of proper vedic incantations. that's what i wanted to show by posting this. apologize if the dates weren't clear. these aramaic incantation bowls are dated to AD

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u/GlobalImportance5295 16d ago edited 9d ago

double commenting to mention a member of the Priyamedhas (rendered as Biriyamazda Biiryamasda), another Angiras sage family, is mentioned in a Levantine inscription around ~1500BC: https://imgur.com/a/rigvedic-priyamedha-taanach-administrative-tablets-14-1500bc-OajDxil

over 1500 years later, the Angirasas show up again in the Aramaic incantation bowl

edit: many academics agree with the "priyamedha" identification, but i think it is still important to consider "viryamedha" even if academics haven't brought that up in a long time