I mean he does fly away whenever he wants. Its a pretty big plot point, where debbie gradually accepts this and lets him go under the condition he plays it safe
I thought that he's only like 70% Viltrumite DNA or something? So I guess his power ceiling might be lower than Mark who's like 98%, but also he ages crazy fast, and older Viltrumites are stronger, so maybe he'll overtake Mark for a bit but die of old age before Mark has a chance to age/train into getting stronger, but Mark would outclass him long term?
I would assume mark will outclass him long term but as you said there might be a brief period where oliver overtakes him. If he continues to age at the same rate he should be biologically 30 when marks 21. But all that’s speculation right now 🤷♂️
the fact he couldnt even keep up when conquest was doing his series of punching mark in the air the man flew punched slowed down flew punched again and oliver couldnt even keep up
That's the thing – he didn't know that. If he did, he wouldn't even try stepping in. He hadn't encountered anyone stronger than him until that point and didn't have a great idea about his limitations. In the end he proved to be a liability.
The way they animated the impact of that strike and Oliver's reaction was fantastic - you can tell by the look on his face that he's thinking he's never been hit even 1/10th as hard as that in his entire life.
Conquest almost ripping Oliver in half was the most compelling animated clip I’ve ever seen. I felt this fight outdid Invincible/Omni Man. The last 2 episodes of season 3 were so good.
I love too that the second punch he took actually had a delayed response, bro wasn't shocked from getting tossed through several buildings, but was absolutely horrified when he puked up all his teeth.
genuinely good that oliver was finally humbled, he had never fought a real life threatening villain and now he’ll realize it isn’t always fun and games to be a hero, just like mark had to find out. It sucks that the person humbling him was fully ready to rip him in half (and probably eat his heart, something tells me conquest doesn’t lie) instead of someone less vicious.
That’s mostly what I meant, Oliver had only gone up against maulers, elephant man, and a phony invincible (he had a lot of help with this one). Conquest is an entirely different beast, even someone like Omniman would struggle in a 1v1.
It seemed like Oliver was willing to listen to her this most recent time. But she was afraid mark was going to die. Not that she could’ve predicted how strong conquest was.
Another thing is, we see him with the size/characteristics of a child. And probably, because the viltrumite DNA he is still a little bit of an teenager in brain development.
However, we can't be fooled by his look, he is a bug alien that the species die after a year. In his point of view, he is already an elderly in his society, he already lived through multiple lifespans of his species. And he still listen to Debbie
Please I hope this fandom doesn’t fall into the trope of not watching the damn show. Oliver was about to fully listen to whatever Debbie told him, but she said go, strike fast and keep him on his toes. She knew how much pain it would have put him in to stay home and do nothing.
Oliver: [proceeds to get grabbed and almost ripped in half]
I must say, I found it impressive that Debbie actually understood how Oliver should fight to have the best chances against Conquest.
Not that Oliver alone could have beaten Conquest, but still, her advice was pretty good!
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u/Kamzz21_ Mar 14 '25
I mean he does fly away whenever he wants. Its a pretty big plot point, where debbie gradually accepts this and lets him go under the condition he plays it safe