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EPISODE DISCUSSION Invincible [Episode Discussion] - S01E01-03 - It's About Time, Here Goes Nothing, Who You Calling Ugly?

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Episode 1 - It's About Time

When Mark Grayson finally inherits powers from his superhero father, it's a dream come true. But there's more to being a hero than just choosing a name and costume.

Episode 2 - Here Goes Nothing

With his father out of action, Mark struggles to defend the city against an interdimensional invasion, joining forces with a team of teenage superheroes.

Episode 3 - Who You Calling Ugly?

Mark has to cut a study date short to help save Mount Rushmore from a crazed scientist. Robot deals with Action - Comic as he assembles a new team of world-saving superheroes.

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u/Lucky-Surround-1756 Apr 04 '21

Well until we see the guardians fight the flaxens, it doesn't tell us anything.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '21

You're kidding right? They had a hard time with the Mauler Twins you think they could do worse to the Flaxans than Omni-Man?

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u/Lucky-Surround-1756 Apr 04 '21

We literally see them beat Omni-man into unconsciousness. They also only had 'trouble' with the twins because their priority was minimizing civilian casualties.

Again, there is zero evidence he was holding back. Anything else can be explained in terms of unknown variables or inconsistent power levels for narrative purposes. I've never watched a single piece of superhero media where power levels are consistent, so there's no reason to expect it to apply here and make a plot point out it.

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u/[deleted] Apr 04 '21

He flattened an entire civilization without breaking a sweat, I think its fair to say he was holding back

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u/Lucky-Surround-1756 Apr 04 '21

It literally took him months, maybe years. That's why he has a beard.

Again, it's not fair to say he was holding back. The evidence on screen shows otherwise. Until suggested otherwise, there is no narrative reason to suggest he was holding back.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

There is a narrative reason that I put in my original comment, which it seems you neglected to read. If he was beaten up and half-dead, it'd be more believable he was a victim alongside them. Rather than the comic's amoung us-like excuse of "they were dead when I got there"

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u/Lucky-Surround-1756 Apr 05 '21

Except at no point in the fight are given any reason to think that's the case. Again, total lack of evidence. You're arguing from a position of pure speculation, while I'm arguing from a position of facts. At this point, there's no reason for them to hide that he was holding back narratively speaking.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

You mean factually speaking, I just told you for a second time the potential narrative reason for him doing it.

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u/Lucky-Surround-1756 Apr 05 '21

There is no potential narrative reason for doing it. If they were going to reveal that he had been faking his injuries all along, that moment was when he destroyed flaxen. No such moment occurred in the narrative. Your pet theory has been disproven by your own logic.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

All the evidence you need is in these two possibilities

A: Red Rush's Skull is stronger than a flaxan city

B:Omni-Man was holding back

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u/Lucky-Surround-1756 Apr 05 '21

It only takes him a split second to pop Red Rush's skull. We see that scene from Red Rush's perspective, where moments last for hours. There was literally a scene just before this where he explicitly states this to his wife.

Were you even paying attention?

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

Its clear to me that you do not understand the meaning of narrative, so I'm done here

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u/Lucky-Surround-1756 Apr 05 '21

I clearly do and you clearly don't. You haven't countered a single point I've made. So I agree, you're done here.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

Can you give me a narrative reason against my point? He obviously held back his fight against the flaxans proves it. But I doubt you can.

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u/Lucky-Surround-1756 Apr 05 '21

I don't need to. You need to prove your point, not the other way around. We see him get hurt and struggle to win the fight. That's the evidence we need. Considering we never see the Guardians fight the Flaxens, how do you know they wouldn't have similarly steamrolled them? Thus we have no comparison and you have no basis for your point.

You have no evidence. I do.

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u/[deleted] Apr 05 '21

I have several times over, goodbye

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u/Lucky-Surround-1756 Apr 05 '21

Okay, I accept your surrender. Good debate, you tried your best.

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