r/Israel Jan 11 '24

Photo/Video San Francisco Jewish Man who lost 5 family members in 10/7 Massacre booed and jeered at city council meeting by pro-Hamas protesters

Governor Newsom needs to answer as to why there’s so much vile antisemitism within his state bc this isn’t the first city that’s had a council meeting where ppl have spewed hate and intimidated Jewish pppl like this.

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u/TheKing490 Black American Zionist Jan 11 '24

Is San Francisco really that bad? I've always wanted to visit the Bay Area because I consider it a top 5 places in the US?

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u/DoodleBug179 Jan 11 '24

Gorgeous part of California, shit hole city. Unless you want to dodge human feces and hypodermic needles while walking down the street, go somewhere else.

Head south a bit and visit Big Sur. California is magnificent but the major cities are in rough shape.

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u/ayriuss Jan 12 '24

The coast between Oregon and SF, SF and LA, and between LA and the border are all nice lol.

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u/anon755qubwe Jan 11 '24

There’s a reason it’s called “Commie-fornia” nowadays. Also why ppl are leaving in droves.

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u/loveisgoingtowin Jan 11 '24 edited Jan 11 '24

SF native Jew checking in. San Francisco used to be one of the most free, open-minded, tolerant & progressive cities in the world. Large black and asian and latino and gay and lesbian communities all existing in about as idyllic of an American experiment as has ever existed.

All that changed in the 90's when the first tech boom happened. Over the past 30 years those minority communities have slowly but surely all been pushed out by young, largely white, tech money. No more hippies, no more black people. Just Apple engineers, Google engineers, Facebook engineers, Tesla engineers.

Simultaneously, the progressive left has been completely shattered by identity politics. The trans Latinos don't get along with the gay Latinos don't get along with the gay Asians don't get along with the Straight Asians don't get along with the (insert intersectional minority group here).

And as the progressive left has failed to build a viable coalition, all that tech money has turned the city into a dystopian capitalist corporatocracy. Second most billionaires per capita after Geneva, Switzerland with close to 30,000 homeless people in the greater metropolitan area.

As that tech money suffocates the working class, creating a caste system of young tech employees with six figure paychecks & everybody else struggling to pay 3,000 bucks a month for a shitty studio apartment in Chinatown, those "woke" marginalized groups have only grown more and more resentful of the wealth all around them which doesn't invest in them, and that invites the "oppressor/oppressed" narrative which we've seen spin out of control in the wake of October 7th.

From the sexual revolution to a hotbed of frigid socioracial neuroticism. It's my hometown, and it is still one of the most beautiful cities in the world with one of the most temperate climates, but every time I go back it looks worse and worse, now with a full-blown homeless tent ghetto in front of City Hall.

Edit: Here is a documentary called San Francisco 2.0 which breaks this situation down a bit more in-depth.

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u/ReneDescartwheel Jan 11 '24

Amazing explanation.

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u/Fuck-Ketchup Jan 11 '24

You nailed it. My Bay Area of the 70s and 80s is dead. I was there about 10 years ago to visit in-laws living in the dogpatch and was generally revolted by everything I witnessed. That I’m Israeli makes it all the more revolting nowadays. Tech and intersectionality destroyed the Bay Area.

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u/loveisgoingtowin Jan 11 '24

Tech and identity politics. Intersectionality / multiculturalism is what made San Francisco such a great place before "wokeness" came along. I feel myself a much richer person for having grown up alongside so many Mexicans, Filipino, Chinese, Vietnamese, African Americans in my classes. For a diaspora Jew that is really the most ideal environment, one which forces everybody to meet in a secular safespace in the middle of the room & be measured only by the content of one's character. That's how it should be in a perfect world. In a perfect world, the Jewish state would have no need for existence because we would be welcomed everywhere. This is not a perfect world & SF is surely not a perfect city, but do not forget that diversity also made it the jewel of the West it once was.

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u/Normal_Day_4160 Jan 11 '24

lol what tent ghetto in front of city hall? Comical.

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u/Potential_Prior Jan 11 '24

Interesting explanation. Complete political and social chaos I suppose.

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u/klawansky Jan 11 '24

Only right wingers can it that

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u/anon755qubwe Jan 11 '24 edited Jan 12 '24

Not right wing in the slightest. It’s just obvious California has long been institutionally captured by the far-left and it’s become real bad.

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u/klawansky Jan 11 '24

I’ve only heard right wingers call something commie.

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u/anon755qubwe Jan 11 '24

Ok that’s you as an individual. Am just calling it that bc it’s accurate and I’ve seen it be used pejoratively on the internet. Not going back and forth on this anymore.

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u/Hbakes Jan 11 '24 edited Jan 11 '24

Just curious, what far left policies have the been enacted?

Lol, no response, just downvotes.

Should be easy to come up with an example considering it’s “obvious” how far-left the state’s government is.

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '24

Has nothing to do with laws, just the people, what they socially enforce and demand.

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u/Hbakes Jan 11 '24

So the CA government is run by far-left extremists, who for whatever reason, haven’t enacted any far-left policy that you can think of, but is “culturally” Communist? Can you give an example of that?

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '24

You’re taking “commie” too literally, it’s just talking abt ideological authoritarianism. State govt is not controlled by the far left, but these city council members are either part of this vile crowd or beholden to them.

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u/Hbakes Jan 11 '24

K, lol. Just giving you guys an opportunity to explain yourselves. Funny how the goalpost moves in these situations. Sounds like you’re just angry about some benign culture war bullshit, as expected.

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u/Upstairs_Shelter_427 Jan 11 '24

They are not "leaving in droves". SF Bay Area population actually went up in 2023 compared to 2022.

And the SF Bay Area is an amazing place. I'm sorry you couldn't cut it out here - I don't know, just a thought, maybe learn a trade, go to college, or be good at something valuable? I'm 29, I make a ton of money and have a very diverse group of friends and an endless amount of things to do in my free time. There's nothing special about me, yet the opportunities in this place are the most in any part of the world and I am so very thankful for it.

Yes, petty crime is a problem. Yes, homeless people are a problem. Yes, we can do better. What part of the US are these things NOT a problem?

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u/yolololololologuyu Jan 12 '24

It’s gotten really bad the last 5 years

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u/Disastrous_Cheek9979 Jan 11 '24

Meh in terms of antisemitism I don’t think it’s worse than any other big city, definitely less than NYC

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u/anon755qubwe Jan 11 '24

I think it’s worse than NY

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u/[deleted] Jan 11 '24

Worse than NYC.

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u/TrekkiMonstr Israel for 51st state Jan 12 '24

No, not at all. It's a perfectly fine city, but the politics are pretty toxic. Most people are normal, but the average is further left. We have problems with homelessness because we refuse to allow developers to build housing, but we're rich enough that it's still a pretty nice place. I've never seen shit or needles on the street, and I've only seen one sketch thing on Bart. The people telling you how awful it is don't know what they're talking about -- like some dude who's never left Alabama telling you not to go to Evanston cause it's in Chiraq or whatever the fuck.

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u/BenShelZonah USA Jan 12 '24

I’m not from SF but it’s the only city I’ve seen with a website to indicate where there is human shit on the sidewalks lol

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u/[deleted] Jan 15 '24 edited May 01 '25

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u/BenShelZonah USA Jan 15 '24

Honesty I remember it from a Reddit comment a while ago and tried linking it here after I made that comment but for some reason didn’t let me. It definitely wasn’t just human shit you’re correct and I apologize for insinuating that.

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u/TrekkiMonstr Israel for 51st state Jan 12 '24

Not sure what to tell you other than my experiences as someone from there

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u/jsmash1234 Jan 12 '24

I’m an Evanston native and I’ve seen human shit and people smoking crack at my nearest CTA station

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u/TrekkiMonstr Israel for 51st state Jan 12 '24

And I never once did, in the two years I was there.

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u/jsmash1234 Jan 12 '24

Good for you

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u/splice664 Jan 12 '24

Still great place to live in the Bay but there are a growing out of touch group of people taking a hold of our politics. You would never believe someone like Pamela Price becomes DA but here we are. Maybe Trump really drove the nation mad and divided.

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u/thenayr Jan 11 '24

Yeah it’s a total shit please whatever you do, don’t come here, and everyone here claiming they left, please don’t come back 😊