r/Israel • u/traumaking4eva מהנהר אל הים, פלסטין תהיה חינם • Mar 07 '24

Photo/Video Do people think this is a perfectly reasonable statement to make? How dare they?

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '24

It just seems crazy to me. That's what Israel has been doing for ages, and look what happened.

Still no different from what the US did with its invasion after 9/11 though

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u/HidingAsSnow Mar 07 '24

Not sure thats a good comparison.

AQ never ruled Mexico and used it as a base to constantly attack American cities with rocket barrages for a decade and a half.

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u/suicidal_warboi Mar 07 '24

Al Qaeda sure would have shot rockets at the US if it had the means. Not sure what you’re getting at.

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u/HidingAsSnow Mar 07 '24

The point is they didn't have the means. The threat Hamas poses to Israel is way higher than the threat AQ posed to the US.

Using that as a comparison both undersells the threat against Israel and colors things with the negative perception many have against the WoT.

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u/Agastopia Mar 07 '24

Still no different from what the US did with its invasion after 9/11 though

(That was bad)

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '24

No it wasn't. Those terrorists got what they deserved. And there hasn't been another attack like that.

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u/lthatr Mar 07 '24

Wrong.

Extremists and radicals against the west are steadily on the rise since the “war on terror” started. The hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Lebanon and UAE. Yet the USA went and attacked and destabilized totally different countries, ultimately resulting in the creation of ISIS and horribly losing control of Afghanistan.

The only reason an attack exactly like 9/11 was never repeated is because the security measures around the western world are much stronger now. But let’s not forget that ISIS, the power of Taliban, the Arab “Spring” and subsequent civil wars, the refugee crisis, the attacks in Europe etc. are all results of this war on terror.

However, I do agree that Israel is is doing exactly the same. The only thing Israel is achieving is increasing extremism and hate against their people. It just blows my mind how people don’t learn from very recent history.

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u/Agastopia Mar 07 '24

How much of that was due to the war and not the creation of a massive intelligence service? There’s been plenty of terror attacks in the US since 9/11, just not as large scale. That’s due to the TSA, not the wars

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u/[deleted] Mar 07 '24

I disagree. Granted TSA helps but preventatives can be overcome by organized terrorist groups, as seen during the Hamas attack. The destruction of that organization is what allowed the preventative measures to work

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u/HidingAsSnow Mar 07 '24

I agree that its a poor comparison.

US couldve afforded to not go into ME like it did and just beef up security for planes if not for the political will, Israel's situation is very different.

An enemy halfway around the globe and one next door are different issues.

AQ never ruled Mexico and used it as a base to constantly attack American cities with rocket barrages for a decade and a half.