We've reached the point where people are so choked with self-righteousness that they literally cannot recognize bigotry if it doesn't fall into the predefined list of people to whom one can be bigoted. Jews are "the oppressors," so clearly we can't be targeted. That's why whenever there's an attack, or anything that disproves this notion (which is constant), these bloated ideologues literally deny reality, shift blame, or say it was justified for whatever reason. Hamasniks are incapable of accepting responsibility.
Part of the oppressed/oppressor BS where oppressors are evil and oppressed people are good, and oppressed people killing oppressors is good because oppressors are evil and oppressed people are good
Even when the Egyptian guy in the US isn't "oppressed" and the elderly people he attacked aren't oppressing anyone.
Yep, and this is all part of the Soviet/Russian/Chinese government's plan to demoralize and destabilize the West, which Yuri Bezmenov tried to warn us about all the way back in 1984. Loom up his interviews from the 80s if you're curious. His predictions for the future are uncannily accurate.
She is simply against the Jews having self determination in their ancestral homeland. Other than that she has nothing against the Jews (in general). Just because she thinks world’s only Jewish State should be destroyed, doesn’t mean she’s antisemitic. Duh.
"Without the anti-Zionist part, the reader will fail to understand a key driver of this terrible attack,” she writes." Good grief, the guy attacked Jewish people in the United States because he hates Jews. If she can't see that, ask her why he didn't go to the Israeli embassy to protest.
They’re always doing this shit. The dude literally set a bunch of Jews ON FIRE and she’s pretending like the issue is that he said “free Palestine”. There’s no way these people don’t know what they’re doing
There has been a massive increase in violence towards Muslims since Oct 7. It isn’t as reported as Americans dont care for brown folk. This is a group already significantly marginalised and socially kettled. Do you recognise the concurrent Islamophobia?
It's like the CNN person interviewing the guy after the shooting at the museum and asking if he was worried about a conflation between the Columbia protesters calling for intifada and the guy who just shot people. And erwrwewefewf what do you think intifada means?
So did NYS AG Letitia James and SDNY. In 2020 they both refused to investigate the tiktok that you will see on that page. They refused to talk to Jewish students about antisemitic intimidation and harassment. It was "free speech" to threaten to set a Jew on fire with a lighter.
AG James held a Jewish American Heritage month event for her employees. I happen to know one of the speakers, so I heard all about it. It was, surprisingly, brazenly Zionist. And then she was in the Israel Day parade. It may not all be genuine, but so many politicians have done way less.
Satmar and some Breslov isn’t Zionist either. And we all KNOW these Judenhaasers are going to attack them one of these days. Wonder how the Left will try to excuse that?
I cannot sign a letter that equates the calls for a ‘Free Palestine’ with antisemitism. Without the anti-Zionist part, the reader will fail to understand a key driver of this terrible attack,” she writes. “Also, the perpetrator, whose actions I condemn fully and that resulted in harm to our community members, was explicit about ending Zionism.”
Ma’am, that’s not how language works. You cannot actually condemn an attack while you praise the attackers purpose in attacking. First of all, if you hate Zionism, burning a bunch of Jews in Colorado alive can not end it. Secondly, this poor confused woman seems to be so concerned with what fanatics think of her that she’s willingly turning off the receptors in her brain that process consistent logic. This could only mean she cares more about the opinions of some people than the lives of Jewish people.
She's implying/saying that the readers will fail to understand the RIGHTEOUS JUSTIFICATION for this attack. She is saying it's important to UNDERSTAND AND EMPATHIZE with the FUCKING TERRORIST who attacked innocents in broad daylight. That's what's important here?!!
She is full-on justifying a terrorist setting JEWS ON FIRE IN THE STREET.
You don't "end Zionism" without killing 90% of the Jews on the planet.
"Whose actions I condemn fully, and that resulted in harm" excuse me ma'am a fucking terrorist set your constituents on fire in the street as they peacefully marched to set hostages kidnapped by terrorists 600+ days ago free. "Resulted in harm" is so fucking minimizing.
This is horrific and disgusting. I hope she gets her ass handed to her, but she's probably instead going to be cheered on by the internet at large for her hard stance on Zionism. God, I hate this new reality.
She speaks like if ending Zionism was less worse in any way... It literally means ending an entire country and ethnic cleansing the region from an entire native ethny. It's bizarre how people demonized zionism to the point is ok to repeat nazi slogans and falacies to defend its end. It's antisemitism disguised under a fabricated social justice cause.
And wiping out 90% of the Jewish people and the entire Jewish identity. Am. Eretz. Torah. That is what defines us. You can’t remove one pillar without eradicating the whole.
Antizionists seek the destruction of the Jewish People. That’s all.
I don't think it's either or. A lot of people believe the "I can't be antisemitic because..." or "It's not antisemitic because..." So for her, she can very much believe what she is saying and get tripped up in "..but anti-zionism isn't antisemitism!"
I’m not convinced anybody ever believes that sentiment. It’s just something they have to tell themselves. They have a very dishonest relationship with their beliefs.
“It is unconscionable that a city official feels comfortable denying access to Boulder citizens to programming or social media being used to conduct City business,” the complaint states.
The complaint was filed by Rachel Amaru, an organizer with the local chapter of Run for Their Lives, which advocates for the release of hostages held by Hamas[…]
The 😬 is because it’s the same org that was targeted in the attack that the council member in question (from OOP’s and OP’s articles) refused to condemn
They were literally just in support of the hostages being released. It's an anti-conflict stance, not a Zionist one. And even if we do classify it "Zionist" it's not an excuse to fucking firebomb people--THE FUCK!?
They were also advocating for hostages from all countries, not just Israel.
IMO, they should sue every newspaper that reports the initiative as pro-Israel or Zionist for libel - it’s blatantly false, as can be seen from a quick glance at their web page. They explicitly do NOT take any stand beyond “hostages held by terrorists should be set free.”
Accepting the existence of Israel as the realization of Jewish self-determination is a zionist stance. In fact, that's the definition of zionism.
Supporting a two- (or three-) state solution is a zionist stance.
Wanting a ceasefire and peace - which implies you want Israel to exist as one of the parties to the ceasefire and peace - is a zionist stance.
Wanting a change in Israel's government - getting rid of Netanyahu and Ben Gvir - is a zionist stance, because it implies wanting an Israeli government.
An anti-conflict stance is a zionist stance, because antizionism means supporting conflict for the end of destroying Israel.
Guys- this is exactly what I mean when I say that I feel like my leftist friends (particularly in Boulder) are fueling antisemitism. I have 20 mutual friends with her. I’m sure they all just think they’re being sympathetic/empathetic. It’s f’ed up.
You don’t have to just think it it’s absolutely true. You’re witnessing it with your own eyes. We all are. I will be donating and fighting to whoever runs against the city council person. I’m not even sure if they run for election, but whatever it takes.
Seriously all of their social posts are about the horrors in Gaza and how awful Israel is. I have one friend w over 300k followers who constantly posts about Palestine. He posted something about the attack on Sunday and only 30 people replied. Out of those 30 about 3 were “but what about…” posts.
When I said something about his posts inciting people, he came back with “well my tax dollars are funding Israel…”. I don’t see him talking about how his tax dollars are funding golf courses, private jets, and the stripping of rights for women and trans people. How can people be so myopic? I’m flabbergasted.
Dude, your tax dollars are funding EGYPT and PAKISTAN and the war in Yemen and the war in Sudan (American allies on BOTH SIDES). Where are those posts?
Right wing tax dollars fund abortions and federal lawyers who used to sue people for discrimination and they fund Medicaid and SNAP and when they whine and whine about that, we on the left say "It's a democratic process - STOP WHINING" and privately we say "they are so racist, sexist, homophobic, etc." No sympathy.
And that's exactly what I have here: no sympathy. Of course you CAN have an opinion about anything and you SHOULD have an opinion about American foreign policy. But the real moment to influence that was LAST NOVEMBER and you were too busy scaring normal people by waving terrorist flags to bother to WIN. So - maybe work on that.
Lighting Holocaust Survivors on fire for participating in an explicitly NON-Zionist event.
Run for Their Lives takes no stand on anything but freeing innocent people held captive by terrorists. They are explicitly non-partisan on everything else. IMO, they need to sue everyone claiming otherwise for libel, because they are not a pro-Zionist organization - they just aren’t ANTI either.
We need to shout that from the rooftops and make that distinction clear. The Judenhaasers do NOT get to claim this was an attack on a Zionist anything, because it wasn’t. Don’t let them hide behind that lie.
I could not sign into the joint letter because my request to add the anti-Zionist to the antisemitism attack sentence or the word anywhere in the document was denied.
I cannot sign into a letter that equates the calls for a ‘Free Palestine’ with antisemitism. Without the anti-Zionist part, the reader will fail to understand a key driver of this terrible attack. Also the perpetrator [...] was explicit about ending Zionism.
Sadly I fear we will continue to see more vigilante justice if we do not allow our systems and institutions to follow and enforce the rule of law equally.
Some responses to this statement include:
Hi Taishya - can you help me understand your post - while you say you condemn the violence, you then seem to justify that if the victims identified as "Zionists", then you could understand and maybe even support the violence? And that it would even be justified as a "key driver of the attack" in support of "ending zionism"? Am I correct? Are there other political movements in Boulder you don't agree with and you could understand (and support) how they deserve to be attacked?
I too am confused by this response. I'm a Zionist, is that a valid "key driver" to attack me?
wow! Your statement reads that you support violent attacks on Zionists. is that what you meant to say? If so, it is repugnant that you condone any violence against any group. We cannot have that in a public official.
Your refusal to sign a citywide condemnation of Sunday’s terrorist attack—an attack on a peaceful gathering focused on the release of hostages, not Israeli policy—because it did not include the term “anti-Zionist” is deeply troubling.
you call this disgusting inaction “building bridges”?! You call the burning of elderly Jewish AMERICAN civilians “vigilante justice”?!!!
Sadly I fear we will continue to see more vigilante justice if we do not allow our systems and institutions to follow and enforce the rule of law equally.
Imagine if a politician said “I simply can not sign a letter condemning the killing of George Floyd if it insinuates that anti-black racism was a key driver.”
The difference is that if the above had happened, people from all walks of life would stand up in outrage and rightfully throw her out of office.
While BLM etc now solidly stands with one of the single most racist groups out there. It's always fun watching them try to justify the Al Abeed neighborhood, and the arab slave trade.
Exactly. “I simply can not sign a letter condemning the killing of George Floyd if it insinuates that anti-black racism was the killer's main motivation.”
"The letter doesn't mention that Floyd's killer hated drug users, which may have been a key driver of this attack."
"So while I absolutely condemn violence (wink wink), we must acknowledge the killer thought he was battling an evil that our society and legal system should better address."
You are mistaken about the mayor. I know him pretty well. About a month ago, he worked with CAM to convene an antisemitism summit in Boulder. He’s getting pilloried and doesn’t deserve it. He can’t recall Adams but I sure hope the voters do.
Weird I don’t remember any (of the very few that I know of) attacks against Palestinians being labeled as “Anti Islamic Fundamentalism” or “Anti Hamas”
For your sanity, don’t read the comments in the Boulder sub about this article. Although I’m betting it’s being heavily astroturfed by leftist antisemites.
Imagine heavy leftist asteoturfing on reddit. These are the kinds of people that take over a campus building and then demand that the school feed them.
Yup was just there getting shat on for checks notes refuting the claim that “Jews and Palestinians have been killing each other for 2000 years.” All their responses were “but what about the genocide???” What about reading comprehension and not leaning into the racism of low expectations. How about not speaking about history you clearly don’t even comprehend at a basic level.
Palestinians as we know them today didin’t exist before 1967. Arabic Palestine as a national identity wouldn’t be old enough to collect Social Security in the US.
Yup, haha. I mean these are the same people arguing the Ancient Egyptians are the same as modern day Arabs. They don’t realize they’re just supporting Arab colonialism and Arab nationalism.
This is fucking insane. Like what planet are we living on right now that this behavior and mindset has become normalized? It's terrifying to witness this many people becoming so radicalized that they're perfectly okay with their neighbors being set on fire or executed on the street. It's "resistance" after all.
Congratulations to Qatar and Russia for brainwashing hundreds of thousands of Americans with their vile, Jew hating propaganda.
Oh it’s the “Boulder has blood on its hands” person who said that shit days after 10/7 (in an attempt to blame the USA, Israel, and (((Zionists))) for the attack) and then denied ever saying it even though it was recorded in a council meeting. She shares stuff from WOL and other groups on her social media, she’s an antisemite who hides it behind political and activist language.
They would dispute even that. Meanwhile they’ll find an Uncle Shlomo and say “see it’s us Jews who are the real antisemites not the actual antisemites” or say something about how Palpatine is the real semites lmao.
Mark my words - instead of being mindful of all the letters and phone calls and reflecting on the pain her actions have caused, she will instead make an emotional announcement that she has been receiving death threats from Zionists and paint herself as the real victim.
Yeah, that's (one of) the craziest parts about this. She is insisting that this terrorist attack was driven by the desire to "end Zionism." Okay, so that's true -- a terrorist burned a dozen of your constituents alive in the street to "end Zionism." Seems you should admit at that point that a. burning people alive in Colorado will not end Zionism, b. There is no justification for terrorist attacks on innocents even if you yourself agree with the "key driver" of the attack, and c. the anti-Zionist movement must reckon with the fact that their cause is being adopted by terrorists to murder Jews.
I grew up in Boulder and am glad to no longer live there as there are many people like this. My family still lives there. Any Colorado Jews please head over to the Boulder subreddit it’s a cesspool of gaslighting and virtue signaling. It needs some more sane voices.
They’re spinning themselves in circles to try to justify that these Jews shouldn’t have been attacked because they’re not Zionist (even though most of them likely were)… which means they think Zionists should be attacked. For those that don’t know Colorado Springs where this guy is from is extremely evangelical ie tons of Christian Zionists. He drove two hours to attack JEWS. He like most of the Arab world knows Zionist = Jew. The left’s cognitive dissonance to radical Islam is honestly terrifying.
And they either A. Have no idea that Zionism just means believing that their should be a Jewish state or B. Completely dishonest and want Israel destroyed ( I think a lot of what is driving this is their belief that you cannot ever critique the beliefs of people fighting oppression which leads to extremism)
Yup racism of low expectations. You’d think every oppressed group ever has become a terroristic death cult…. I think there’s option C too where they want Israel gone and are too stupid to even comprehend what that means and think Palestinians will welcome the “brown” Jews and the “white” Jews will go back to Europe. Then there will be peace and love.
Which is strangely funny because anyone with a basic knowledge of Israeli politics is that the Mizhrai Jews tend to be more right wing than Ashkenazi Jews( shows how little they know about Israel)
Quite literally. They have no idea how they got there…
I personally think Israel is one of the most religiously and culturally accepting place on earth. Definitely in the Middle East, not that it’s hard 😂. I sometimes wonder if visiting would change their minds but I’ve met antizionist Jews who visited so probably not.
I am amazed by how ok they are with just accepting anti Zionism. When we try and say anti Zionism is bad and you can criticize Israel without being an anti Zionist they revel their true colors. I feel this is the result of a philosophy where you are never supposed to critique an oppressed people. I think Matt Yglesias said it best “ I would also note in this regard that people who angrily protest that decolonization means binational democracy seem to put exactly zero effort into trying to figure out the logistical details of how this is supposed to work.
Many of these arguments hinge on the supposed impracticalities of a two-state solution, but there’s no shortage of maps that have been drawn over the years that precisely delineate hypothetical borders and land swaps while one-staters have … nothing. What kind of electoral system will be implemented? How will the constitution work? How are you going to deal with armed non-state actors? To be generous, it’s a utopian program being pushed by people who aren’t very thoughtful. To be less generous, it’s a blueprint for war and killing. Realistically, the whole thing is being driven by oddball campus norms in which you’re never supposed to critique the actions of the people fighting oppression, so the most extreme slogans inevitably win out.”
Exactly they have no actual plan or answers. Lack any understanding of the basic fundamentals. We also somehow get wrapped up into their hate of fundy Christianity. And Jews have somehow never been oppressed and if they were they deserved it.
My thing is “Free Palestine” is equally if not more a nationalist movement than Zionism. One that’s Arab only, no rights for anyone that’s not straight, Muslim, and male. That one no problem. However the Jewish one is somehow the most evil regime ever imagined and must be wiped off the map. The only way to rationalize it is through antisemitism. Both came about around the same time as nationalist movements and both were offered a country. Only one has chosen violence again and again.
I think you may be onto something with us being wrapped up in hatred of the religious right, would explain the LGBTQ community response, they see it as an avenue for weakening evangelical power. I also think it’s a result of social media causing people to be naturally extreme . Engagement is good for ad revenue so we must keep supplying dopamine, which tends to cause extremism. Also this war is unique in that Civilians cannot flee into another country easily because Egypt wants nothing to do with the Palestinians, thus it makes this war much harder. It also doesn’t help Ben-Gvir and his party cannot keep their mouths shut.
Well, yeah. Anyone who actually knows anything knows that Mizrachim HATE the Arabs the way many Ashkenazim hated the Germans after the Holocaust. But even more viscerally, since Germany actually tried to do better and the Arabs keep trying to kill them…
The PR out of Israel is so frustrating. Yes the news cycle these days is giving yellow journalism. All about the money.
Journalism historian Frank Luther Mott used five characteristics to identify yellow journalism:[4]
scare headlines in huge print, often sensationalizing minor news
lavish use of pictures, or imaginary drawings
use of faked interviews, misleading headlines, pseudoscience, and a parade of false learning from so-called experts
emphasis on full-color Sunday supplements, usually with superficial articles and comics
dramatic sympathy with the "underdog" against the system.
That last point being the most disturbing and familiar.
I think the fundy Christian stuff should be more explored. I think people have a lot of religious trauma towards Christianity in the West and for some reason lump us with their anti-religious sentiments. Weird thing is that they don’t do that with fundamentalist Islam. They see Islam as exotic and cultural. Islam = oppressed and Christianity = oppressor. It’s incredibly bizarre and perhaps self absorbed to not be able to see what they hate about Christianity can often be worse in Islam/the people they are supporting. Like all their complaints about Israel could be equally lobbed at every majority Muslim country in the world and then some. I don’t have the answers but it’s definitely making an impact.
They’re also using the “Big Lie” technique in propaganda which was literally first used by Hitler.
The German expression was first used by Adolf Hitler in his book Mein Kampf (1925) to describe how people could be induced to believe so colossal a lie because they would not believe that someone "could have the impudence to distort the truth so infamously". Hitler claimed that the technique had been used by Jews to blame Germany's loss in World War I on German general Erich Ludendorff, who was a prominent nationalist political leader in the Weimar Republic.
In this case the big lie is that Jews/Israelis are committing genocide or on the other side that the Jews are lying about everything. Hitler’s being that he claimed the Jews were making a “big lie” when it was in fact him all along. Because who would lie about genocide s/.
Part of me thinks they should have called it antizionist in addition to calling it antisemitic because then it equates the two as being the same thing, which they are. But on the other hand, calling it antizionist would legitimize the attack for many people, so it’s probably best that they kept it as-is.
It's really telling. If they were able to stand up and say "this isn't antizionism, we are antizionists and we don't stand for this" then that would be a lot better and there might be room for actual dialogue or something. Instead they're telling on themselves that this is what they always knew was inevitable.
The left is more dangerous because they more zealously believe that they're correct, and because they directly aid and abet right wing islamism. In a vacuum right wing antisemitism is equally as dangerous, but they aren't currently working on integrating themselves into every space and industry in existence in the same way. Lawyers are more dangerous than HVAC guys, basically.
I ain't defending any particular political dogma here, but the left's evil is particularly insidious. It wears a self-righteous disguise, pretends to champion for the poor, the down trodden, the underdog. Soon as that championing becomes too inconvienant, they will jump through hoops to pretend YOU are the oppressor.
I am not Jewish myself and am not near arrogant or stupid enough to tell the Jewish community who to vote for, or what political party really will go to bat for them but, I REALLY don't think the left has your interest at heart. If AOC's meely mouthed "thoughts and prayers" response to the attacks on those Jews in Boulder prooves anything? They don't really have your back. Who you should vote for? Who you should go with in a political cycle? I have no idea, but I don't think any political faction is going to put you first. Oh the'll SAY they do every election, then promptly go back to forgetting you exist.
I apologize if I am coming off as speaking out of turn here but I feel it should be said.
It’s not lost on me that the state of Colorado will prosecute a baker for refusing to bake a cake for gays. But setting Jews on fire is not an arrest able crime
There will be a recall effort; it's already in the works, but everyone is focused on the immediate tragedy & emergency. A recall takes 7k physical signatures within 30 days, unfortunately change.org signatures do not count. I live near, but not in, the City of Boulder, so I can't do anything except help collect signatures. There's a giant community event tonight at the JCC, and I sincerely hope that someone has that petition there. As an elected person myself, I know that if my personal beliefs conflicted with the health and welfare of my community, I WOULD RESIGN, as she absolutely should.
There's nothing about this that doesn't make me squirm. I'm so sorry this is happening to all of you right now. First, you were told you're "running the world" and "control the media". Now, the media is suddenly jumping on the hate train, along with a plethora of streamers who serve no cause but to fan these flames to the point where they fully get out of control.
She's added this to her Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid=10162773872741427&set=a.10150720754456427
I don't see the guy going to an Israeli embassy or consulate to peacefully protest. He set Jews in Boulder on fire to "free Palestine". When is attack people with Molotov cocktails "unacceptable attacks"? Try murder attempts.
Shit like this is why equally vile people like Trump will keep getting elected. For all of the vast and numerous faults of the Republican party, at least they pretend to care about us enough to charge the attacker with a federal hate crime and attempted murder.
That woman makes me sick, and I just hope that she gets what she deserves in the karmic cycle, preferably sooner rather than later.
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“I cannot sign a letter that equates the calls for a ‘Free Palestine’ with antisemitism. Without the anti-Zionist part, the reader will fail to understand a key driver of this terrible attack,” she writes. “Also, the perpetrator, whose actions I condemn fully and that resulted in harm to our community members, was explicit about ending Zionism.”
I was born a year after the USA bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki killing far more civilians than Israel has protecting its home land which was in self defense!
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u/Squidmaster129 מיר וועלן זיי איבערלעבן Jun 03 '25
Well maybe if people weren't lighting Jews on fire while yelling "free Palestine" people wouldn't be making that equation