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u/paracelsus53 Conservative Jun 15 '25
People are cheering on Iran and saying it needs to destroy Israel and save the Palestinian people and this is all over Reddit. People are insane.
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u/PGH521 Conservative Jun 15 '25
Unfortunately when people get their education from social media and never fact check a thing, they have absurd views. Maybe if they took 5 minutes to look up the reaction from the Iranian people they may change their minds….but that’s not going to happen so don’t expect much
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u/HenriettaGrey Jun 15 '25
Worse, the legacy media is complicit and refuse to fact check a thing!
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u/Nickis1021 Jun 15 '25
The problem people often miss, is the legacy media is hiring foreign nationals with actual skin in the game as journalists. So there's no more objectivity.
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u/HenriettaGrey Jun 16 '25
I’m certain you are right. The Muslim Brotherhood has placed many people in Legacy Media, Academia and Trusted NGOs and they all willfully repeat each others’ lies, taking legitimacy from each other (while also destroying their legitimacy). Hamas had very tight control on what was coming out of palistine, but none if the media stated that the figures and events weren’t vetted. No one wrote that “Hamas stated”, just reported their missives as fact. It’s disgusting that legacy media outlets can’t even follow the most basic of journalistic ethics.
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u/Nickis1021 Jun 16 '25
Thank you. And the thing is the legacy media know very well that these numbers aren't vetted. So it's not like they're just suddenly unintelligent or suddenly uneducated. They know full well they are not verifying these numbers which are just CLAIMS. By the very same terrorist agency who perpetrated the attacks. They are disingenuous and they are lying. And even CNN as liberal and lefty as you can get even they are reporting about well placed Hamas operatives or loyalists being placed inside legacy media outlets.
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u/decitertiember Jun 15 '25
Or consider for a moment the fact that the Iranian regime has been actively arming the Russian assault on Ukraine.
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u/gurnard Jun 15 '25
And in return, Russian content farms have been pushing the aforementioned anti-Israel narrative in the west. They missed the boat on Western public opinion on Ukraine, but were poised and ready on October 7.
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u/ArtfulAlexis Jun 15 '25
Never forget that October 7th is Putin's Birthday. I don't believe that's a coincidence.
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u/Unique-Reference-829 Jun 15 '25
Even the devil has a birthday.
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u/paracelsus53 Conservative Jun 15 '25
Just watched a short clip on FB of some guys in Tehran ripping the head off a statue of Khameneini. :)
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u/Nickis1021 Jun 15 '25
This. These kids are getting their education 100% from social media. The rest are attending elite universities with inciting foreign nationals with skin in the game, then they become friends with those extremist zealots .....and so it goes.
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u/HenriettaGrey Jun 15 '25
Iran pledged to nuke Israel. Has no one figured out they would have vaporized and irradiated ALL the palestinians too? It’s almost like - they don’t care about the palestinians 🤔
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u/fertthrowaway Jun 15 '25
These people have zero understanding of how tiny Israel is and how its main population center is barely 15 km from the West Bank. Iran and the Houthis can't aim missiles as accurately as Israel and they already frequently kill Palestinians by accident. Since they don't have bomb shelters, it's quite possible they've killed and injured more Palestinians thus far than Israelis, even (I haven't tried to add it up).
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u/Cheftanyas Jun 15 '25
My family and I are in Jerusalem because we came here on the morning of 12th June for our son's bar mitzvah, which was supposed to happen today and Monday. Plans are in limbo for the time being.
I can see on the local Israeli news that one missile from Iran hit the Palestinian area of Judea/Samaria (West Bank), so yeah, this happened. Ppl forget that around 2 mil Arabs live in peace in Israel, but I guess they don't want to pay attention to anything other than their Jew/Western hatred.
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u/fertthrowaway Jun 15 '25
Also reminds me of when a Hezbollah missile hit a Druze village and killed several children on a soccer field in far northern Israel. There were 1 or 2 incidents with Bedouins getting hit by missile shrapnel as well, not to mention killed and taken hostage on Oct 7. But the Palestinians in Gaza and West Bank apparently just regard all Arabs living in Israel as traitors, so they're also fair game. Hope you can stay safe...at least they might avoid bombing Jerusalem because they won't risk hitting the Dome.
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u/Nickis1021 Jun 15 '25
This 100%. And Mazal Tov on your son's bar mitzvah! Only nachas & good things ad 120. Stay safe!
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u/mikiencolor Just Jewish Jun 15 '25
They don't care about Palestinians. They just hate Jews.
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u/Mysterious-Crab Secular Jun 15 '25
Which ironically is the exact reason why Israel has to defend itself at all cost, it turns out once again that there is only one place where you are truly safe as a jew.
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u/monkiemp3 Jun 15 '25
My g-dmother (what would actually be the word for it in judaism? /genq) who lives in Israel and has been living for a long time in there was the first one to tell me that Israel is the safest place to live as a jewish person, and it seems like that statement gets more and more real as more shit comes out. Ppl will get upset bc their jewish friend is moving to Israel because the antisemitism in their current country is getting worse and worse and it's like... I'm sorry, would u rather for you to end up finding them dead in the street with the k slur written all over them or what??? I'm hoping to move out to Israel soon 💔
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u/Mysterious-Crab Secular Jun 15 '25
It is something that is hard to explain to people who aren’t Jewish. It’s not that I’m scared when I go out or anything like that. I can live a good and happy life.
But there is always that underlying existential threat, fearing (and more recently knowing) that when shit hits the fan again, society will drop us and we need to fend for ourselves.
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u/juggleypaul Jun 15 '25
I was thinking that exact same thought earlier. So much for caring about the Arabs in Gaza and Judea and Samaria. It reminds me of what Orwell said about the radical left. "They don't love the poor, they just hate the rich" Well we can also say after we've seen this bizarre phenomenon "they don;t love the Palestinians, they just hate the Jews". Because they seem to be happy to sacrifice the Palestinians if it means there being another shoah. Insane the lot of them!
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u/CocklesTurnip Jun 15 '25
Do they not realize the area is so small if nukes are used it’ll take out the Palestinians, too?
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u/paracelsus53 Conservative Jun 15 '25
I guess not. This morning, a FB friend who's been drenching my dms for days with liberal stuff about the US (which I am fine with) posted a photo of Tel Aviv being bombed and saying "that's what you get for bombing another country." I blocked him.
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u/deelyte3 Jun 15 '25
Exactly. If nothing else has, this absolutely proves that some people, (often called “they”), know ZILCH.
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u/Mighty_Mac Annie (Jewpanese) Jun 15 '25
At least because the riots and protests we had one day they left us alone. Now this, sigh.
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u/ThePickleConnoisseur Jun 16 '25
And the reason Palestine is a short show is because Iran is funding the terrorist “government”. Political literacy is at an all time low
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u/Ionisation1934 Conservative Jun 15 '25 edited Jun 15 '25
The ¨palestinian narrative¨ (just another name for orthodox mainstream ideology that supposedly represents palestinians) has been heard even before Israel declared war after the 10/7 massacre. I remember how the future-foreseeing left wing ¨denounced¨ what israelis were doing as a genocide just about a week or two after the war started.
In fact, it is the only narrative being heard. Not the real palestinian will, not the israeli people one.
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u/Electrical_Pomelo556 Not Jewish Jun 15 '25
With regard to the 'Palestinian Narrative' not actually representing Palestinian people, I watched a video the other day from Jubilee's series surrounded with Ahmed Alkhatib (pro-Palestinian peace activist) and twenty pro-Palestinian protestors, almost all of whom were not Palestinian themselves. When he did talk to another Gazan, he mentioned how he felt that there are non-Palestinians who speak over Palestinians. Everyone got so incredibly offended and it was hilarious. It really gave white liberals whining over reverse-racism.
Here is the video, if anyone is interested: https://youtu.be/Ukk2gULncFw?si=RpYUVlif29-q-JBb
However, I feel obligated to list a trigger warning: you will be watching and hour and forty minutes of people telling a man who has lost 33 family members in this horrific war that he is dishonoring their memory by wanting peace with Israel.
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u/Hopeful_Being_2589 Jun 15 '25
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u/TND_is_BAE ✡️ Former Reform-er ✡️ Jun 15 '25 edited Jun 15 '25
You weren't kidding. I watched a few minutes of those zombies justifying October 7th and my blood is already boiling.
Edit: the guy in the blue suit is overflowing with hatred towards Jews. He literally says Jews should "go back to Brooklyn" and that we see all people as "goyim dogs."
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u/Electrical_Pomelo556 Not Jewish Jun 15 '25
I really admire Ahmed. He has WAAAAY more patience than me. I cannot imagine losing that many family members only for someone to try to use their deaths to make a political point. I would have either screamed at them or just broke down sobbing.
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u/FiveAvivaLegs Conservative Jun 15 '25
Truly the patience of a saint, I don’t know how he does it. I really admire him, too, and his ability to stay calm and focused in the face of so much personal loss and in countering the prevailing narrative in search of peace. We need more Ahmeds in the world.
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u/Pretty_Peach8933 Israeli Jew. I'm funnier in Hebrew Jun 15 '25
"Everyone got so incredibly offended" - yeah cause the truth hurts sometimes.
Bunch of privileged people who have no idea what they're on about.
They're so high on the 'splaining drug it's disgusting.
It's like they have a fetish for talking over and for whoever they deem a minority\marginalized group.
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u/Ionisation1934 Conservative Jun 15 '25
thanks for sharing.
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u/Electrical_Pomelo556 Not Jewish Jun 15 '25
You're welcome. I wanted to share it on the sub yesterday, but it was removed due to being off-topic, which I understand.
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u/SCE-Sheol Jun 15 '25
If I am recalling this correctly, there were SJP groups already calling it a genocide on October 8th, before Israel had even started a full on military campaign.
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u/Immediate_Secret_338 Israeli Jun 15 '25 edited Jun 15 '25
Yeah, the resistance truly is helping Arabs and Muslims around the world.. ahh wait
https://www.timesofisrael.com/fatma-alttalaqat-35-bedouin-mother-of-9-murdered-by-hamas/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/article/2024/aug/27/israeli-bedouin-hostage-hamas-gaza
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u/ViolinistWaste4610 Jun 15 '25
Dang. I hear the Bedouins make a good cup of coffee
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u/Immediate_Secret_338 Israeli Jun 15 '25
They do. They also have the best hospitality
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u/ViolinistWaste4610 Jun 15 '25
My Hebrew school teacher had a story about how since having coffee/tea and talking is customary in buying something, they went to some sort of store at Yellowstone and spoke Jewish to each other, so the owners brought out some coffee, since it turns out the owners were auctally Israeli as well.
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u/Qs-Sidepiece Modern Orthodox Jun 15 '25
I know you probably were referring to Hebrew but spoke Jewish to each other gave me the best giggle that I needed very much today thank you 🫶🏽
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u/BudandCoyote Jun 15 '25
Guessing English is their second language - in many others Hebrew and Jewish are the same word.
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u/Pretty_Peach8933 Israeli Jew. I'm funnier in Hebrew Jun 15 '25
"Spoke Jewish to each other"
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u/SpphosFriend Jun 15 '25
Well someone went mask off
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u/Squidmaster129 מיר וועלן זיי איבערלעבן Jun 15 '25
Unfortunately, not really. They put on the mask of "this is heroic anti-zionism." If it were mask off, they'd just admit they want to kill us.
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u/CNWDI_Sigma_1 Jun 15 '25
Anti-Zionism is "we want to destroy Israel", so this is absolutely the same thing. Anyone who declares themselves "anti-Zionist" is my existential enemy.
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u/Squidmaster129 מיר וועלן זיי איבערלעבן Jun 15 '25
Yes, but it’s just a lazy excuse used by people to hide bigotry, is my point. They’re not being open about it, they’re hiding behind the term “anti-zionism.”
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u/Successful-Match9938 Jun 15 '25
Proudly written by an antisemite
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u/DetectiveIcy2070 Jun 15 '25
It's really funny how the writer quotes Sartre here, when he has a perhaps more famous quote...
"Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past."
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u/bam1007 Conservative Jun 15 '25
Nice how they sprinkled in antisemitism in the highlighted portion, just so we knew where they were coming from.
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u/GoodGuyNinja Jun 15 '25
And the following paragraph with Holocaust revisionism.
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u/setttleprecious Jun 15 '25
Yeah, I found the next paragraph after the highlighted section even more egregious.
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u/NagyLebowski Jun 15 '25
But...what is this nonsense publication?
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u/Freakishlist01 Jun 15 '25
minnesota star tribune newspaper. this "strib voices" section is i guess a segment for people to write opinion pieces?
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u/Resoognam Jun 15 '25
Is this a mainstream newspaper? Because the fact that they published someone writing that “Germany has been liberated from Nazi guilt” is insane.
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u/W1nd0wPane Not Jewish Jun 17 '25
I knew immediately from the “strib” that it was the Star Tribune and I haven’t lived in MN for 20 years. Ugh. Why tf would they publish this trash? The editor definitely needs to receive some strongly worded emails.
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u/Emergency-Basis-1362 Not Jewish Jun 15 '25
This guy comes off as someone who really enjoys the sound of his own voice and the smell of his own farts.
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u/Electrical_Pomelo556 Not Jewish Jun 15 '25
Thoughts from before I saw the second image: Earlier this week I watched a video from Jubilee's surrounded series featuring Ahmed Alkatib (if you don't know who he is, he's a Gazan-American who is actually pro-Palestinian, is very anti-hamas, and is very outspoken about the antisemitism in the pro-palestine movement) versus 20 pro-Palestinian protestors, most of whom were not Palestinian themselves. A white lady in a keffiyeh tried to argue to him that October 7th and everything that followed it has actually been good for Palestinians because now what's happening in Gaza is all over social media. He just looked at her and said "I'm sorry, you think October 7th was good because you want to see my people's bodies all over social media?"
Thoughts from after I saw the second page: first of all, wtf?! Second of all, I just wrote a paper on Holocaust denial for an undergrad class on Middle Eastern politics. I'm sure I don't have to explain here how common this narrative is among Holocaust deniers, but this is actually a form of Holocaust denial itself, even though the author seemingly acknowledged the Germans committed crimes against the Jewish community. It is denial in the form of equation. While Israel-- like any country-- certainly has blood on its hands, it has yet to commit an industrialized genocide. The author equates Germany's crimes with Israel's, and in doing so 'downgrades' the Holocaust to war crimes instead of an unprecedented industrialized genocide. As such, the author is denying that the Holocaust itself was a systematic, industrialized genocide.
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u/mikiencolor Just Jewish Jun 15 '25
A white lady in a keffiyeh tried to argue to him that October 7th and everything that followed it has actually been good for Palestinians because now what's happening in Gaza is all over social media. He just looked at her and said "I'm sorry, you think October 7th was good because you want to see my people's bodies all over social media?"
That is the level of narcicissm, yes. Mass death, rape and destruction in Israel and in Gaza is good because she's having a great time virtue signalling about it on social media. These are people who pantomime empathy for pats on the back without actually feeling it. That's why they have been so easy to manipulate by Qatar, Kremlin, et al. They're not called "useful idiots" for nothing. Nobody capable of feeling genuine empathy for suffering Palestinians could possibly help but to feel it for suffering Israelis as well.
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u/Electrical_Pomelo556 Not Jewish Jun 15 '25
The same lady got offended when another Palestinian agreed with him that he doesn't want Hamas to be in charge of a new Palestinian state. And, ironically, her mouth dropped open in shock when Ahmed said he felt non-Palestinians talked over Palestinians.
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u/Beautiful_Bag6707 Jewy Jew Jun 15 '25
It's worse. He downgrades Jewish losses, equates them to Gazan losses, and accuses Jews of "hogging the narrative" of Nazism that Jews were just a small slice of a much larger pie of anti-Black, anti-gay, anti-disabled, anti-Romani, anti-communist beliefs of the Nazi Party.
Next thing you will see, is these people saying that millions of these other groups were the true victims of the Holocaust, Jews were not significant victims and were in fact perpetrators working with the Nazis to "steal" Palestine from the poor loving Palestinians. The industrialized massacre of Jews will be twisted into "fake" and all the Allied countries who liberated camps were "in on it" and pull out the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to show how Jews have always been the "real problem". Hitler was a wonderful guy who was manipulated by those awful Jews /s
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u/Angustcat Jun 15 '25
"Next thing you will see, is these people saying that millions of these other groups were the true victims of the Holocaust," They already try to say that. Which pisses me off because they erase the millions of gentile Poles and Russians and other slavs the Nazis slaughtered.
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u/Anxious-Chemistry-6 Jun 15 '25
Is this the most anti semitic thing I've ever read? I dunno, but it's definitely up there. Just holy shit bi genuinely can't believe a supposedly educated journalist would write that.
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u/mila_schapo Progressive Jun 15 '25
Where the fuck has Ahmed Tharwat been this last 600 days
Edit: omg I thought it was only the first picture. This guy should be investigated and so should be the people that approved the publication of this article.
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u/HeySkeksi Reform Jun 15 '25
Let me Google this author.
Oh look, criticizing Biden’s Holocaust Remembrance speech for not mentioning Palestine.
These pick me fucking losers are genuinely insane.
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u/ExperienceNo2543 Considering Conversion Jun 15 '25
If you look at TikTok’s of survivors telling their stories it’s full of people in the comments going but what about palestineeee and it maddens me so much because I’m like are you so thick that you can’t read the room?!
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u/crimsondespot Jun 15 '25
Is this an op-ed in the Star Tribune?
Even the language in the second sentence, "the Zionist state of Israel" is very weird. Of course Israel is a zionist state--it's so obviously redundant (The State of Israel wants the State of Israel to exist?) that you have imagine the writer meant something else with that word. Wonder what that could be...
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u/Proper-Suggestion907 Conservative Jun 15 '25 edited Jun 25 '25
https://www.linkedin.com/in/ahmed-tharwat-1b52637
He apparently contributes to the Pioneer Press (and Al Jazeera English), too. Unbelievable.
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u/HilariousHilacopter Secular Israeli Jun 15 '25
Just straight up admitting that the Holocaust inversion narrative is a projection of their white guilt okay
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u/Beautiful_Bag6707 Jewy Jew Jun 15 '25
This guy says it's been 100 years of suffering. Does he mean Jewish suffering? In 1925, modern Israel didnt exist. The sovereign states of Egypt, Algeria, Morocco, Jordan, Iraq, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria etc., didn't exist.
1925 was 5 years after the Jerusalem riots. Instigated by Arabs. Attacking Jews in the Jewish quarter where they had lived for centuries as dhimmi.
In 1921, came the Jaffa riots where "Arab men bearing clubs, knives, swords, and some pistols broke into Jewish buildings and murdered their inhabitants, while women followed to loot. They attacked Jewish pedestrians and destroyed Jewish homes and stores. They beat and killed Jews in their homes, including children, and in some cases split open the victims' skulls."
https://archive.org/details/onepalestinecomp00sege/page/173/mode/1up
In 1923, the Arabs turned to violence and boycotted elections refusing to give Jews and Christians seats at the table for self-governance and (gasp!) equality.
In September 1925, Jews were forbidden from bringing seats and benches to the Western Wall, despite it being for the use of the elderly and infirm. The Mufti of Gaza put a fatwa on land sales to Jews. The British government restricted Jewish immigration (not Arab) after a huge number of 30k refugees fleeing Russian pogroms immigrated to Palestine-Eretz Yisrael.
That's 100 years ago. The supposed tranquil "living in relative peace" period. Riots, massacres, denial of equal rights, denial of right to purchase, not "steal", land, restrictions on access for the elderly, restrictions on immigration including refugees fleeing certain death.
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u/Sudden_Breakfast_374 Jun 15 '25
finally?
i watch the news with my family nightly (local and then ABC or CBS) and the news has almost nightly for the last year and a half talked about the plight of the palestinians and how awful israel is.
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u/revoltingcasual Jun 15 '25
Say, didn't Elon Musk say that Germans shouldn't feel guilty about their actions in WWII? Gah, this guy says that too.
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u/Mindless_Charity_395 Tribe Protector Jun 15 '25
Things are NOT going to go well for us Jews/Israel given 20+ years down the road. Especially if this is the type of stuff being published….
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u/UnknownLimerade1106 I CAN AND WILL RIP THROUGH THE CHALLAH LIKE A FUCKEN ANIMAL Jun 15 '25
“Hmm…gross. Mop it up.” —John Mulaney
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I wrote my letter to the editor spitting on this fucking piece of shit op Ed and wiping my ass with it. I urge you all to do the same.
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u/himalayanhimachal Jun 15 '25
They haven't liberated anything
Most support is from far leftists , Islamists and a small amount of disillusioned creeps on I guess the right of you can call it that and this must be a Marxist pretend revolutionary magazine
No one in west is waking up to what they are saying
Especially not how they say. Infact People are starting to get annoyed by it now. Most people truly don't care and just want to live their lives and TRULY do not make Palestine or even Israel (to be honest) their whole lives. Like in my country NZ the overwhelming majority of people don't care or pay attention which is ok with me as it's better then the other option. Most still absolutely would be pro Israel. And as for Pro Palestine even I am pro Palestine as I want what's best for them to and literally pray for them and for Israel that things improve but I'm not delusional like these creeps on this magazine. Guys do not worry about such things. These people are absolutely without a doubt gonna disappear and move on .. This absolutely always happens and will do with this without ONE TINY bit of doubt as nothing lasts forever.. people move on and steam will run out .. most people don't hate Israel let alone Jews
Even many of the anti Israel nutters are quite delusional and truly and honestly do not have a clue what they are talking about. I found some tweets from Oct 7th which I was wrong about though lol. I remember as it was happening it was Saturday Evening in NZ and I was at home and watching it unfold on X. I at first heard about the mass amounts of Missiles and how unusually some managed to hit the ground before being blown up in the sky. Then I seen the video of that jeep filled with Hamas fighters on the street as someone filmed from above in a building totally shocked and I thought "Ok a few jeep loads of Jihadi freaks managed to get into Israel after the Missiles were shot and will be gone soon"
I even said "Israel army will come in and get rid of the "few dozen Hamas" and it'll be over quick" .. I was very wrong. Then I started seeing the rest of the stuff and the LITERAL denial in live time. I even have old tweets. Absolutely revolting behavior. I blame social media in large part. World events have turned into sport and teams lol .. Even Russia Ukraine I noticed this. It's insane stuff. Anyway my point is I truly believed it would be over quick.
I told Leftists and others in my anger from seeing certain responses that This will end fast and then within a month at most you'll be on to your next trend .. but obviously it didn't work like that BUT it will calm down. Literally all does in this world. Do not lose hope or be unhappy and know that truly most support Israel or at the least don't pay attention. Things come and go in this world and all happens for a reason. Nothing just happens for absolutely no reason. Even very terrible things. All that is happening now will one day be but a memory ..
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u/MashaRiva Jun 15 '25
The Palestine narrative is indeed being heard around the world. Never mind that it is pure fiction. It has always fascinated me that Israel, with some of the best brains in the world, does such an absolutely lousy job when it comes to communications and public relations. Israel is totally incapable of telling its story and defending its position. The “Palestinians “, on the other, do an absolutely fabulous job of presenting its fiction. Pity.
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u/FineBumblebee8744 Just Jewish Jun 15 '25
This is ridiculous. The 'palestinian' narrative has always been a load of bull. Anybody buying into it has screws loose
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u/Angustcat Jun 15 '25
The opening sentence alone is batshit crazy. No Hiroshima or Nagasaki? No Sudan or Cambodia or Rwanda?
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u/Previous-Papaya9511 Jun 15 '25
Wait. I want to know exactly how relieved these folks are for the Germans supposedly being relieved of guilt over the holocaust(they aren’t btw)? Like, is it just a deep breath and a wistful sigh? Or are we talking full on dancing in the streets in celebration of 10/7 level of relief?
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u/TND_is_BAE ✡️ Former Reform-er ✡️ Jun 15 '25
Ah, yes, raping and murdering Jews in Israel is going to liberate those women in Afghanistan who are barred from getting an education. Makes sense Mr. Tharwat. 👍
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u/Saykanel Jun 15 '25 edited Jun 15 '25
Everything else was acceptable. But "liberating germans from their guilt"? Yep, this is the work of one of those antizionists who decided to also be an antisemite. Worst part is I know the argument he's trying to make. It's a common one, that the nazi's brutality was just the epitome of ordinary western brutality and the Shoah was just the same logic employed by the British, Spanish and Americans against the native americans, and by the French against the North Africans taken to its conclusion. But this is entirely the wrong statement to make, the wrong conclusion to take
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u/Angustcat Jun 15 '25
I can't see comments on this on the website https://www.startribune.com/opinion-the-palestinian-narrative-is-finally-being-heard-around-the-world/601371781
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u/OfficeAmbitious9656 Jun 16 '25
There’s almost 50 comments, most are challenging the author so that’s good to see.
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u/Kelly_the_tailor Jun 15 '25
I would like to vomit on this article. How delusional can people be?! We have to be strong.
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u/Spiritual-Crow-5539 Jun 15 '25
What’s everyone’s view on what happened in New York when those men threatened to rape that Jewish lady who wasn’t apart of the protest? And they were screaming death to Arabs? How is that a good look for the Jewish community when all they see is things like this?
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u/purple_spikey_dragon Jun 15 '25
Its just every Muslim country/group trying to one up tue other by claiming they are the one being the pinnacle of Islam and the saviour of Arabs. Definitely not the only one noticing this. One time its Pakistan claiming they are freeing Islam, then Isis claiming they are true Islam and will make it global, Iran saying they are the strongest Islamic nation that will show everyone, now Palestinians claiming they will free Islam and Arabs from...???
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u/3starcats Jun 15 '25
people have been yelling about palestine for a while now. Im pretty sure everyone knows…
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u/Otherguy2814-A Jun 15 '25
Pretty sure the truth was exposed on 10/7...in that Isreal is right, Hamas are evil, and Iran needs to be taken down a few pegs.
What annoys me is their still pretending their narrative is not the "mainstream" narrative. That the're the "kewl" misfits standing up to "the man". Anything to keep that "We're the Underdogs! And we're right!" narrative.
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u/deelyte3 Jun 15 '25
Last I checked, it was that little blip that I like to call Israel who is liberating folks from their regimes.
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u/Logical_Character726 Jun 15 '25
So now Jews are held to a standard worse than white people? Sounds familiar
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u/The3DBanker Reform Jun 15 '25
« Finally being heard around the world »
Bullshit. It’s been spread by hate mongers for decades.
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u/sprocker13 Jun 15 '25
Minnesota has a very big Arab population. I'm not surprised to see this. It's just noise from people we expect to be noisy -- ignore it and move on. That's what I'm doing.
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u/Particular-Bus-59 Jun 15 '25
They're quoting the Gaza health ministry. You might as well give the reporter a rifle, although he probably already has one.
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u/WeMakeHoles Jun 15 '25
Yeah—and it’s shrill AF. Sorry not sorry. The people who’ve now found their purpose in these Free, Feee Palestine protests are Kool Aid-addled simps under indirect IRGC control. They have absolutely no concept of the history or origins of their “cause.” The intellectual incuriosity is STAGGERING. And even when they KNOW it—it doesn’t get through to them. They’re in too deep. Sunk costs.
It’s a fffking cult. Always has been.
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u/tvdoomas Jun 15 '25
People for get that the first generation of the "Palestinians" were organizationally linked to the third reich. The nazis were in northern Africa and the middle east during WW2 and they had regional allies that shared their dream of wiping out the jews. The nazis gave them guns and half way trained them. They exterminated all the jews they could get a hold of, until the jews organized and fought back. The jews who fought back were the haganah. The Nazi Arabs were the Palestinians... no, if's and's or but's they are a Nazi faction that never gave up on the war.
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u/Suburbking Just Jewish Jun 15 '25
Its just bullshit for the sake of bullshit. We need to start suing them for libelous speach but who has time for that.
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u/AzorJonhai Jun 16 '25
"the Zionist state of Israel"
What an odd phrasing. The writer of this article clearly spends lots of times in online spaces where 'Zionist' is used as a pejorative. You can tell they've forgotten how redundant 'Zionist Israel' sounds to normal human beings.
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u/DoubleL278 Jun 16 '25
It never ceases to amaze me. With all my desire to somehow support emotionally, I can't really make your fears magically disappear sir. But let me point out the following: they've written "two years". As far as my online search went, it's their worst argument to date. Some say since 2000, some 1967, some 1948 and others date back further.
I hope it will help you get some peace of mind, even for a little. Regardless, it's okay and natural to be afraid in real time. But don't let it break you.
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u/JewBronJames Jun 15 '25
It's like these people live in a completely different universe