r/Jewish 8d ago

Venting 😤 Feeling confused and ashamed

Throwaway because many of my friends are pro-Palestinian

I (F17) am of Senegalese and Spanish-Jewish origin. My mom is Muslim and my dad was Jewish but my parents broke up when I was younger( like 8 )and went no contact, so I’ve been out of touch with my Jewish heritage for what feels like forever ( and to be honest sometimes I feel like I’m not even Jewish because I know so little ) My mom never denied that part of me though and although my family is Muslim they’re very open minded, when I was little my younger cousin even wanted to convert to Judaism, but she could never help me get in touch with that part of me so I kind of scrambled to reclaim that side of my identity and that’s how I became fascinated with Israel.

When I was little no other kid knew what it was and my mom thought it was cute but that was all there was to it. Now since oct. 7 everyone my age knows about Israel but they’ve been very critical of it some even saying it shouldn’t exist and because of that I got into an argument with my best friend of literally ever. She (F19) was born and raised in Senegal and immigrated when she was like 12, her family gets along very well with mine so we used to spend all of our time together. Recently though she posted a story of those posters where they say stuff like Israel is starving ppl etc… and at first I didn’t really confront her because I figured she just didn’t know better,,, but when she came over for barbecue I decided I’d use this opportunity to explain to her the situation and she wouldn’t hear any of it.

I explained how important it was for Jewish people to have a place for them, a safe haven to practice our culture and just be who we are and she just ??? Disagreed ??? She told me something and that’s what stuck with me and why I’m feeling ashamed, she asked me : if tomorrow Afro Americans decided that the us aren’t safe enough for them anymore and decide to just settle in Senegal and people are moved out of their houses to make room and now the French army is back on the territory, would you support that ? And I was like well no but that’s because they’re Americans, they have their country and their culture and all that and then she asked me if my father didn’t also have that. She was like ā€œis ur father just Jewish or is he Spanish AND Jewish?ā€

And yeah, my dad spoke to me in Spanish, and although I don’t remember it all too well, I do know that my family’s history is IN Spain, and ever since then I stopped talking to her and I’ve been feeling ashamed because now I’m questioning everything I believed in.

I’m not saying Israel doesn’t need to exist but I’m not sure I agree with the method used by the IDF? Our ā€œsafe havenā€ hasn’t know peace because who ever decided to cut the land didn’t do so equally and didn’t house people who were moved out and I feel like this isn’t our fault but idk I feel ashamed because I thought if I ever got the chance to become Israeli then I’d be a real Jewish girl but now I’m not even sure I want to visit the country anymore, and I do feel like my ancestry is to be upheld (??) but I feel like my friend was kinda right, that I already have a culture and now I’m thinking and I’m ashamed to think so but I genuinely believe that I’d rather work hard to be accepted among other Spaniards as both Spanish and Jewish than fight people for a land my family has no history or ties to, because at the end of the day antisemitism is the root of the problem. If for whatever reason we lose the war then I don’t want to feel unsafe but I don’t think Israel is what’s gonna keep us safe, it’s failed to do so so far and now everyone I know is against their methods in the war and I’m no longer sure they’re wrong to disagree I’ve spent so long fantasizing about meeting other Jewish people or like being accepted as such that I completely forgot that I could be Jewish, Senegalese AND Spanish.

This is really just word salad and English is not my first language, so please don’t be mean. I haven’t told my mom about it and I genuinely have like no Jewish friends so I have no one to talk to about this and I’m terrified that I’m just being antisemitic for questioning all that since I wasn’t raised as a like ā€œproper Jewish personā€?? I’m not even sure how to word it

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u/tangyyenta 8d ago

Large scale Arab immigration to Israel/ Palestine did not begin until the Jewish Russian/ European obtained permission from the ottoman caliphate to RETURN to the land, bring investment and improvements, sewers, clean water , electricity and employment. Let me say this again. The Arabs did not immigrate to Palestine in large numbers until after the Jews revitalized the land. Jews always lived in Israel. There was always continuous populations. Small, oppressed.., under foreign rule. But The small strip of land is ours. The surrounding Arab Muslim countries have oil, shipping ports, and their own governments.

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u/FalseMountain9527 8d ago

That I understand but it’s more about what’s going now rather than how all of it started, I’m struggling to believe that Israel can protect us or even how it could when all people see now is like armies and the war,,, people in my class didn’t even KNOW about Israel until the war and now it’s all bad and I’m scared because I’m starting to believe some of it. Like I dont care who was there first but it’s just that now there’s two people and maybe people who are saying that just going on and on with the war while being critical of some method used by the IDF aren’t completely and it scars me because I feel like doubting Israel is like doubting my Jewish ancestry omfg just writing it makes me sick lol I’m dramatic sorry

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u/tzalay Just Jewish 8d ago

"doubting Israel" you are officially a Jew now šŸ˜„

One is free to criticize the methods of the government or the IDF, one has the right to disagree and doubt. Actually that's what millions of people are doing in Israel, just check the latest rallies. Israel is part of the Jewish heritage/culture/religion, but only a part. You can doubt Israel and be a Jew. You can be a proud supporter of Palestine and say that Israel has no right to exist until the arrival of the Messiah, that's what the Neturei Karta tells. Doubting and questioning everything is a very Jewish thing, debates formed the halachah, the Jewish law.

TL:DR it's ok to freak out on Israeli actions of war and still be a Jew.

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u/BisousMonster 6d ago

Not just okay, but dictated to us as Jews to follow our conscience and fight for what is right.